I had my appointment with diabetic consultant and bariatric team yesterday.
They explained properly why they have put my operation on hold , but thanked me for bringing to their attention the problem I have with a neighbour who works on their team. and that now as well as being on vitamin D tablets I need to take iron tablets too, and the diabetic consultant has upped the intake of novomix and victosa too.
I’m on enough medication to start my own chemist up.
On the plus side they gave me a list which may help with the carb cravings, and I now have cupboards in my new kitchen lol
Once you've got your plan for tomorrow's meals, pop over to the Daily Diary and join in there. You'll get a lot of support and putting things 'in writing' can help to strengthen commitment
When I was going to the dieticians for a year, she never gave me no advice or tell me anything til my last appointment with her when she said I was supposed to be eating 1500 calories a day. Which I was eating anyway.
My thyroid medication has been upped too and they said I’d to eat eggs, cherries, dried fruits and tomatoes if I get the carb craving again. I can sit and eat a packet of cherry tomatoes as I love them and have fresh ones what I grew in the garden.
Every time I go to see them they seem to be putting me on more medication and that why I feel like giving up
BridgeGirl's advice to use the Daily Diary may well be the perfect place to start and to focus on and will be a strong step to working towards a solution.
If you have been consulting with a bariatric team then I am going to assume that you should be on more than 1500 cals. On the face of it this sounds potentially very low and running the NHS BMI calculator will give you a good idea of what you should be on. If you're eating too little, this will only likely lead to uncontrollable cravings.
If you haven't, make that first step now and look at the DD.
Additionally, keep talking to everyone here and you'll find that you've got 24*7 support.
I can see that you're dealing with a lot - different medical teams, medication, advice that hasn't always been consistent. It's going to be difficult if your thyroid condition isn't as well managed as it could be, so I would see what help you could get about that from the Thyroid UK forum healthunlocked.com/thyroiduk
Apart from that I'd say take one day at a time, even one meal at a time. Do some planning this evening for what you'll eat tomorrow and think in terms of eating well, not being over-restrictive. As Tiggerr says, if bariatric surgery is being considered, then 1500 calories will be way too few for you.
Once you've planned your meals for tomorrow, or even just for breakfast, post it on the Daily Diary and see what everyone else is planning. You will find them all helpful so ask any questions about their meals and choices
At the moment until 3rd October it’s difficult to plan meals. I’m having a new kitchen fitted and can’t use my cooker. I have use of microwave, slow cooker, and acti fry at the moment. I’ve got a stew ready to start cooking in the slow cooker at the moment.
I have a friend who is bigger than me and he had the operation last November. He was on 1500 calories too. It’s hard very hard.
That stew sounds great! I suggest you match it with a few veg, no potatoes or rice.
I'm not sure, do you want the surgery or do you want to try and lose the weight by changing what and how you eat? Which you'll have to do anyway, after surgery
I’ve put loads of veg in. My soon cooks potatoes separate for himself.
I had personal reasons for wanting the surgery but I’m beginning to think I might try the diet route again.
We do eat healthy (apart from this past 2 weeks) and I shocked myself Monday after I bought a kfc for our meal and I had 1 mini fillet no bread. Yesterday my son bought fish n chips. I always take the batter off the fish and only had half of it with a few chips. My 25 year old son lives with me and we help out on the fair. Not good I know with hotdogs and burgers around but we know the right people who cook healthy foods. I was in Newcastle in June for 2 weeks and came home to an 8lb loss. I was happy with that but then I gained again with having no kitchen.
I’ll be glad to get back to cooking proper meals.
I’ve tried SlimmingWorld and weight watchers but couldn’t get on with them
Tracey as well as reading all the information that BridgeGirl has given you, I would take a look at Diabetes.co. uk, it’s free to join and has a wealth of information,
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Hi Fluffy, I just read your post and felt like you needed a virtual hug 🤗 Don’t give up on yourself. You will lose the weight. It’s possible. You’ve been given some excellent advice by other forum members. I just want to reiterate that 1500 calories is way too little for you. I weigh 72.6 kg and am only 2 kg from a healthy BMI, and I lose half a kilo/1 pound per week on 1645 calories/day. Find your calorie allowance range here: nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-we...
Reading your responses above, it sounds like you've almost got this sorted, but your medics are making this way more complicated and unpleasant than it needs to be.
Consider: if you're not losing weight, not getting better, and full of pills, perhaps there's something wrong with the advice? It's incredibly hard to accept that experts are leading you down the garden path, but I think you can judge from the reality of the situation that there's something not quite right here.
You are craving hot dogs, burgers, and carbs because you are slowly starving to death. Survival is the most primal instinct there is, and your body will not accept a starvation diet.
Add some fat to your meals, and eat until you are full.
You've already done well by deleting the carbs from your meals, but you have to replace them with something. Humans can efficiently extract energy from either carbs or fat. Since you have essentially lost your ability to use carbs for energy (including "cherries, dried fruits and tomatoes") your only remaining option is fat. In other words, there's nothing wrong with burgers ... with some veg or salad on the side instead of a bun. And if possible, make them yourself from proper meat
Why eat until you're full? Well: two reasons.
One: your body knows how much energy it needs, and that's what drives your appetite. Eat fat and very-low-carb, and you'll naturally stop when you've had enough. If you give your body less than it's asking for, all that happens is that you drive it into "famine mode", which causes it to hold onto fat - since, in a famine situation, that's the best strategy for staying alive. Conversely, if you're eating enough, it will discard stored fat (=stored energy) because it's not needed.
Two: if you don't, you'll feel like death.
If you're disinclined to believe a random stranger contradicting people with medical degrees - which is of course a perfectly rational response - read up on Dr David Unwin's work. He has published some practical diet guides as well as theoretical explanations, and he's a bit of a celebrity in the NHS at the moment.
I would follow their advice and diary for your next visit . I had to shed weight after my op or else the surgery was pointless. This motivates me and my post op follow up I breezed in 6 kg lighter then . They have reasons to encourage you to shed weight but for me I never thought of the new confidence this is giving me . I hid behind my weight but since I have found a new job , new friends who never knew me when I was heavy . Do this for you . They will only be temps in your life .I am healthier too . No joint pain, breathe better and love clothes shopping.
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