Antibiotics & Probiotics

[Jefner]

Completed a 5 day course of Flucloxacillin for what looks like a small abscess around my nether regions but alas it isn't any better so may have to have another course depending on what my GP says tomorrow when I am booked in for a home visit and I really really do NOT want to take another course because I feel battered by the one I have just had.

That particular antibiotic really knocked me about so I am wondering if anyone out there has been on something different that isn't quite as harsh on the tummy. Obviously we are all different in our tolerances but lots of us have gut issues with the Hashi's and some of you may be able to suggest an alternative (that you have tried) that I can mention to the GP who is coming round for a home visit tomorrow to have a look at the infection, and it won't be MY GP who knows all my history so I need some knowledge and ammunition to throw at the one that is coming because I know what they are like, they will just chuck anything at me without considering my other issues. My cousin has been a nurse for years and she did mention Co-Amoxiclav as an option

Plus I was gobsmacked to learn that antibiotics can in actual fact cause anxiety. Was on a forum yesterday and so many people who had never experienced anxiety in their life had it when taking their course and that their Doctors wouldn't believe them when they told them (surprised...not!) so might explain why mine worsened.

I started my probiotic a few days ago, which was probably too higher dose to start on and put me straight into die-off symptoms so it was suggested by the nutritionist at Amrita whom I spoke with, to empty some of the contents out and start out again on a lower dose rather than bombard my system with too much at once (which it felt like) and then build up to a whole cap in around a weeks time.

Also looking for more natural products to rebuild nuked gut bacteria. My appetite isn't that good at the moment due to the nausea with my now out of sync tummy and aggravated anxiety.

I so have some YeoValley Kefir and Kimchi from Sainsburys. I am having a few sips of the Kefir here and there throughout the day and a little Kimchi with my evening meal but it's difficult getting it down due to my lack of appetite/nausea.

Does anyone know of a decent site online where I can order other food stuffs that will help, as with agoraphobia I can't get out and have to put a minimum £40 order of £40 with Sainsburys or I get slammed with a £7 delivery charge

Thank you

[Cake-Maker]

I can empathise. I’ve just finished four ‘back to back’ courses of antibiotics for a UTI which was ab resistant. They finally cracked it with a 7 day course of Trimethoprim but my anxiety was sky high and I didn’t sleep at all for 6 nights.

Anxiety and Insomnia listed as ‘rare’ side effects but GP tells me they’re relatively common.

[Regenallotment Ambassador in reply to Cake-Maker]

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[Cake-Maker in reply to Regenallotment]

Aah. Thank you. 😘

I’m trying to rest physically and mentally. Four courses of abx take their toll but at least we now know which one to head for in case of recurrence.

[Jefner in reply to Cake-Maker]

wow a Doctor that actually "believes" antibiotics can cause anxiety, wow!

[Cake-Maker in reply to Jefner]

Mmm. That’s the problem. So many medics think medicine is a religion.

[Cake-Maker]

Co-Amoxiclav is a good option. Few side effects but sadly the infection was resistant to it.

I can recommend Optibac as an excellent probiotic. They do a range of different probiotics. See Amazon

[Jefner in reply to Cake-Maker]

reluctant to buy from Amazon as there are so many fake reviews and I currently have a good one, am looking more for sites where I can buy fermented food stuffs

[Cake-Maker in reply to Jefner]

I understand.

I was staggered to hear from a friend yesterday that her dog has developed a heart murmur as a result of a fake supplement for dogs from a third party seller.

It’s a case of bewaring fake reviews and fake products too

[Jefner in reply to Cake-Maker]

oh that's awful, hope doggy is ok

[Sparklingsunshine in reply to Jefner]

Just a fyi many of the fermented foods you buy arent that good, by law they have to be pasteurised to kill harmful bacteria, but like antibiotics it also kills off the good stuff. If you are interested in getting the benefits its really worth making your own. I've made my own kefir for years, or you can make water kefir using cocnut water. And home made sauerkraut is easy and cheap.

[Jefner in reply to Sparklingsunshine]

and yet I can find unpasteurised stuff on the internet . Just don't have the enthusiasm or motivation to make my own but I will look into it thanks

[Staffsgirl in reply to Jefner]

Do consider making your own kefir. It’s so incredibly easy, and will be so much better for you, and cheaper! Starter grains are not expensive, and you only need a very small amount. I would advise getting the live grains as opposed to the dried ones. There are a number of good online companies which will supply the grains.

Also,I doubt that Sainsbury’s kimchi is very live! I haven’t yet found a live kimchi in a supermarket. Several companies online sell it: look for ones that have to be kept in the fridge as soon as they arrive. If not kept in the fridge, they will be inclined to carry on bubbling. Alternatively make your own… I often do. Again, it’s easy.

I totally sympathise with your antibiotic situation: in the past year I have had to have them for a couple of really nasty infections. They knock me about. I hadn’t known they cause or increase anxiety, but that figures entirely!

(Waitrose charge £4 delivery.)

[Cake-Maker]

She is Ty - just lots of expensive vets’ bills

[Sparklingsunshine]

My husband has lymphodema in his leg and is prone to getting ulcers/infections if his skin breaks open. Flucloxacillin is notorious for upsetting the stomach, its like bloody Napalm, strips everything out. One time when his leg hadnt responded to the Flucloxacillin and they wanted him to have another course we asked for an alternative. I think they prescribed Amoxicillin that time which was much more tolerable. I would explain its upset your digestion and ask for a different one.

Morrisons can deliver, you only need to order £25 worth. You can either set up an account with them or use them via Amazon Prime. Iceland is £25 minimum. Where I live Tesco and Coop do home delivery with the little black and white robots. They can deliver just a few items.

[Jefner in reply to Sparklingsunshine]

I have had Amoxicillin before for a couple of two abscesses and they worked a treat and I don't recall having all the shitty symptoms that I do now on those so I may ask for those again if needed. I use iceland and Co-op but my co-op doesn't sell the stuff I need.

[BB001]

Try taking a course of VSL#3 provocative to restore for bacteria. Revital.co.uk sell it.

[healthkiwi]

Not a direct answer, but have you thought of using honey as a topical dressing? Been used safely for thousands of years. There's lots of research on using honey to aid wound healing. Preferably manuka honey because of its special properties, but any RAW honey will help. Good raw honey with its natural enzymes is naturally antibacterial, contains substances which clean out wounds, pus, etc and encourages speedy healing.