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the nhs calcium vits in tube?

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Hi. Any thoughts please on the prescription calcium chewables as to quality /absorbtion etc? Which are often prescribed alongside Levo

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Are they? I've never heard that before. Why? I don't think there's any connection. And calcium supplements are not a good thing to take unless you absolutely need them. They are difficult to absorb at a cellular level and the calcium tends to build up in the arteries and soft tissues. And very few people ever really need them.

There are several articles about calcium supplements in general on my profile if you want to take a look. :)

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply togreygoose

Thankyou ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ. I'm brain foggy sorry! Of course. But I know there's a lot of wisdom here! No excuse

Yes calcium for hip/bone. Iv not taken them as I sensed there are negs! It's magnesium I think that sends it to the right places not the arteries! but other supps probably better anyway. Il stop wasting them & take off prescription. !

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humanbeanโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

It's magnesium I think that sends it to the right places not the arteries!

Magnesium and Vitamin K2

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply tohumanbean

Yes. I think I wrote it badly sorry about that

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Steniโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

No need to be sorry ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ™‚

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

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greygooseโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

You don't need excess calcium to have good bones. And most people get quite enough frpm their food. Excess is dangerous.

Magnesium is very, very important for bones - more important than calcium. I've never heard that it helps with absorption of calcium. It's true that vit K2 does help calcium to be absorbed by teeth and bones, but that is calcium from food. Calcium supplements are another thing entirely, and I'm not sure that K2 would be of much help, there.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply togreygoose

Yeah. Sadly the nhs have a bit to go

Thanks. Which magnesium as a few types ๐Ÿค”

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greygooseโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Depends what you want it to do for you. If you're constipated, for example, magnesium citrate is the one to go for. But if you don't have a health-driven preference, all forms are good for bones.

Have a look at this article, it explains it better than I can:

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply togreygoose

Great thanks.

Good old Epsom salts to soak feet. Prob the crudest ๐Ÿ˜Š

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greygooseโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

lol

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Brightness14โ€ข in reply togreygoose

Thank you for the update on magnesium.

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FallingInReverseโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Hi Cup-cake7

Hereโ€™s the post I did on Magnesium asking the same question:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Good links to articles on the different types, and replies for ones people chose.

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Etch43โ€ข in reply togreygoose

donโ€™t you need calcium if you have no parathyroids ?

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greygooseโ€ข in reply toEtch43

Yes but hypoparathyroidism and hypothyroidism are two different things, not related.

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greygooseโ€ข in reply toEtch43

I'm not very well up on parathyroids but I do know they control calcium levels. And I seem to recall people saying they need to take calcium because they have hypoparathyroidism. But there's no connection between thyroids and parathyroids except their geographical location.

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helvellaAdministratorโ€ข in reply toEtch43

helvella - Parathyroid Links

Some links to parathyroid information.

Last updated 20/10/2024

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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BlueGreenWordyDocโ€ข in reply tohelvella

Vitamin D is absolutely crucial for Calcium absorption and bone health. And most folks who live in the Northern Hemisphere are actually deficient unless they spend a lot of time in the sun with it directly on their skin, or are taking supplements. If you're taking magnesium to keep your calcium in balance, I'd recommend vitamin D as well. Up to 1000IU a day.

Also, older women often do need Calcium supplements. If you are past menopause you should have about 1200 mg a day.

I completely agree that through the diet is best (and don't take a calcium supplement WITH your thyroid medication bc it can block absorption)-- but if you are lactose intolerant, especially, or don't eat much dairy, look at your diet and kind of add it up for a few days to make sure you are getting enough.

Calcium absorbs best with acid. So, supplemented orange juice is actually a good option- again, esp if you don't drink or eat much dairy.

If you do need to take calcium supplements, calcium citrate is better absorbed than most of the forms.

best,

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humanbean

You might find these communities on HealthUnlocked of interest.

healthunlocked.com/bonehealth - based in the UK

healthunlocked.com/osteopor... - based in the US

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply tohumanbean

Many thanks ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ. I'm at a point in time just need clear best advice. I don't know how others go on but researching can be quite draining & overwhelming. ๐Ÿ’›

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Hectorsmum2โ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

I wouldnt take them.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toHectorsmum2

I have binned ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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helvellaAdministratorโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Trouble is, I for one do not know what you are talking about regarding "nhs calcium vits in tube".

Are you meaning Calcichew 500mg Chewable Tablets ?

calcium carbonate

Xylitol (967)

Povidone

Magnesium stearate

Sucralose (E955)

Isomalt (E953)

Flavouring (orange)

Mono, di-fatty acid glycerides

medicines.org.uk/emc/produc...

Without establishing that, it is difficult to be helpful.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply tohelvella

Yes that's right.

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Singwell

I had these prescribed in 2018 after a bone break. Lowish density but no-one talked about my subclinical hypothyroidism!To answer your question. As far as I know you'll only get good absorption with Vitamin D3 plus K2. It's the K2 that's important because you don't want that extra calcium setting ip shop in your arteries. There are studies on this. I personally do not take those calcium tabs anymore. I opted for more walking and have recently taken first baby steps in resistance training.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toSingwell

Thanks. Me too, after a break

Looking at the algae vits and funnily Iv been looking into resistance too, good luck with it

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Singwellโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Gotta say starting at 68 it was a shock ๐Ÿ˜ฒ. I'm flexible after decades of yoga but this was very new. If you're an older person make sure you get good guidance, not a simple personal trainer. My person is also a physio.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toSingwell

Good tip. Thankyou. How did you locate him/her

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Singwellโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Via a friend who works with her in person. I did mine online and will continue that way because of distance.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toSingwell

Do you mind giving me details pls if it's zoom thing

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Singwellโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

I'll DM you!

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Lolitina

Hi, I have been taking a supplement fron algae called lithotamnium which is very good for bones since contains tons of minerals , and I take magnรฉsium and cod liver oil for vitamin D, hope this can help

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toLolitina

Didn't realise vit D from cod liver oil. I take omega so exspect its the same

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helvellaAdministratorโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

Check the labelling. I suspect it isn't the same.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply tohelvella

Will do

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Hibs1โ€ข in reply toLolitina

Cod liver oil contains vitamin A which you can easily get toxic from. The sea isn't the healthiest place for fish nowadays. Vitamin d in good oil like olive, avocado or coconut oil

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toHibs1

I have used vit d spray into cheek as doesn't go through gut yeah it's sad about fish it's as good as the sea as you say

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Cup-cake7

thanks for this. Looks really good

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Jmthomas55

Glad you got the answer re calcium,I find the GPS oftern push calcium supplements when you have osteopenia they did with me but I asked them to check my bloods and dietary intake which were both good.agree re magnesium and epsom salts foot bath as good to absorb it that way through skin one less thing to take orally!.

With my Levo I take that early morning before food /tea and vitamins supplements with evening meal as works for me!

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toJmthomas55

Yes I do similar it's a lengthy business but learn along the way ๐Ÿ˜Š yes tbh I felt guilty as these nhs chews built up il stop prescription. It's very sad they are given Willy Nilly regardless and not dealing with the wider picture

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Lovecake

When I was told I have Osteopenia after a DEXA scan, my GP prescribed those chewable calcium things. Dreadful stuff. After working out when I could take them away from my Levo and T3 doses I took one a day for a week. My tummy bloated and I felt 6 months pregnant and the wind in me was dire. Obviously I threw them away. I take vitD with k2 and also magnesium capsules. Thereโ€™s plenty of food with calcium and you can get a magnesium and calcium lotion from Betteryou which is good for a little boost. I get my magnesium capsules from The Autoimmune Institute. Suit me well. A decent size to swallow and no nasty fillers. VitD and k2 spray from Betteryou.

And if you can move about ok, just do some weight bearing exercise. Donโ€™t overdo it though โ˜บ๏ธ๐Ÿง

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toLovecake

Lovely. Thanks a lot helpful! Not heard of Auto society il have a gander! These tips are amazing

๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ for HU. X

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toLovecake

love decent to swallow!! ๐Ÿ˜Š I feel sick after big supps

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humanbeanโ€ข in reply toLovecake

When I was told I have Osteopenia after a DEXA scan...

You might find this article about osteopenia of interest :

npr.org/2009/12/21/12160981...

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Lovecakeโ€ข in reply tohumanbean

Very interesting and Iโ€™m not in the least surprised by most of it. I donโ€™t take any medication for bones from a GP. I had the full hip and spine scan. Iโ€™m on vitD, k2 and mg for my general health. My mum has full osteoporosis, but itโ€™s only recently that Iโ€™ve known how severe. Basically she has been ignored by her docs since she could not tolerate the medication prescribed and now she has memory issues so she doesnโ€™t remember being told she has it anyway. Luckily Iโ€™ve been keeping her vitD levels very good for the last 4 years (sheโ€™s 86). Theyโ€™ve decided she will have the injections to help her bones now at her surgery since a consultant from the hospital checked up on her health. I donโ€™t know about all this private personal health stuff, because with something that can be hereditary I think it would be very sensible to tell any children about health issues from day 1. And a doctor should recommend any adult to talk about these things. But who am I to be telling the big wigs?

Iโ€™m feeling fairly good more often than not at the moment. Mostly due to info on this site. So thanks once again humanbean for your time in replying to my message โ˜บ๏ธ

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toLovecake

Yes I was told osteopenia after breaking wrist. I asked a few times to get a scan. Whether it's a postcode thing I'm unsure but feel it wasn't taken seriously at 68 and having a break. Although I did go flying when I fell and just given these calcichews. Iv read there's a lot more to bone health. So it's back to drawing board. It's not just about level of osteopenia then๐Ÿค”. A friend runs marathons many of them. She has osteoporosis. No pain whatsoever. She is stuck thin. I hope this carries on for her

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Lovecakeโ€ข in reply toCup-cake7

The body is a complicated thing. We will just have to continue doing our best to keep ourselves as healthy and fully functioning as possible ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿง

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Thelostboys

Hi i take the calcium tbs they were prescribed for me for helping my back i have been using them for years . They are called tutti fruited and contain vitamin D i find them easy to chew.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toThelostboys

I hope they helped

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Thelostboys

Didnโ€™t really notice any difference ๐Ÿคฃ

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Cup-cake7

๐Ÿ˜Š. Like me. I wish I reacted a bit more to what I take it would be good indication. I don't think those ones are for me though

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AtoZ24

I was prescribed these after a very early breast cancer diagnosis in 2021, and had to stop cold turkey the HRT I had been on for 35 years! They were like eating blackboard chalk and I couldn't cope with that! I stopped taking them shortly afterwards. I do take Vit D & K2, and electrolytes if magnesium and potassium levels are low and I know as I get cramp at night!.

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Cup-cake7โ€ข in reply toAtoZ24

I don't rate them tbh. A bit crude if it makes sense

What are electrolytes il need to put on list to google ๐Ÿ˜Š I up my gut health if I get heart burn it's an indication I get and can usually link it to wheat

I know br cancer the concern if it's ostregen based is this what you mean, I read it's not all of them though. Understand that's a sensitive topic

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