In any case it is recommended to take the soft gel, oil-filled capsules… on needs to take several capsules per day in 2 or 3 sessions in order to gently build the correct dose. So I understand from the Vitamin D and co-factors group. Tablets are more difficult to be absorbed and also larger in size so more difficult to swallow. I couldn’t swallow them.
Of course! Thinking of VitD… Apologies and thanks for correcting my silly error. I have problems swallowing tablets and find the capsules much easier…. I have restarted taking VitD3 plus VitK2MK7 and have just introduced Magnesium Glycinate capsules , 80 mg elemental Mg. So 2 capsules for the first week and see how my stomach copes with it… (but I understand Glycinate is gentler)… then 4 next week and then 6 following week plus maintaining that dose unless I experience problems.
How do you take yours? And how much elemental Gm? Do you really find it is helpful? Am a newbie regarding Magnesium.
I've been taking magnesium for years - usually magnesium citrate, my stomach prefers it. So, I only take 200 mg tablets - although sometimes two at a time. But I would be hard put to tell you in what way it helps. I just feel better when I take it.
Not been well since Christmas. Had a terrible dose of flu and finding it difficult to get over. Still feel a bit rough.
Magnesium, have read, is supposed to help with many bodily functions… wasn’t aware… until now. So I hope it will help me feel better somehow, combined with the other supplements…
Having a rough time because of RA… most difficult to control now… having had it for over 45 years. Most debilitating and now AMD has been diagnosed…
Sorry you too are having such a rough time. Hope spring might help in feeling better. Getting old is not great when one has serious health issues. Take care.
Magnesium, have read, is supposed to help with many bodily functions
"Magnesium is an important part of the more than 300 enzymes found in your body. These enzymes are involved in processes that help to regulate many bodily functions, including the production of energy, body protein and muscle contractions. Magnesium also plays a role in maintaining healthy bones and a healthy heart."
Hello Blissful and thank you for your most inspirant input. So I really hope my extremely low energy levels will increase soon. Only just started taking Mg Glycinate high absorption 80mg -;2 capsules per day 2 days ago. I intend to take this dose for a week or so then increasing to 4 and 6/day. Hope this is ok. Today I checked whether it would be alright to take VitD3 plus VitK2MK7 and Mg together and it seems to be a good idea.
So after only a week you noticed an improvement… how wonderful ! I too want and need a je ne sais quoi as soon as possible… Incidentally how much do you take and how often?
I have not heard about Mg L-Threonate but will read about it, and thanks for the links. Is it gentle on the stomach ? I was thinking Mg Taurate might be a good form of Mg as it supports the heart as well and having RA .. circulation problems usually arise in time. So anything delaying this must be a bonus. So thanks again 😊
I take 2 capsules around 9pm - I think the recommended dose is something like 2 caps at around midday and then 2 more a couple of hours before bed - for a couple of reasons I decided to just take 2 - it's a fairly pricey supplement and for me, I prefer the "less is more" kind of approach.
Thanks again, what is the potency of a capsule or elemental Mg/capsule? Actually I agree with you that less is more… so will now just take 2/day.
For the first time today I took VitD3, VitK2MK7 and 1 Mg capsule at the same time. Hope it’s ok. Will take the 2nd capsule one hour before bed but 2 hours after my statin… It gets complicated when one takes so many meds and supplements. ,
what is the potency of a capsule or elemental Mg/capsule?
I can't tell you - all US products (that are sold-on/imported to the EU have to have the countries destination language on the label regarding contents etc. - I last bought in July 2023 and clearly the heat of everything during that period caused the over label to melt! I can only hope that because the product is sold in brown glass bottles that the contents didn't suffer.
Which brands do yo use please ? Is it not too much taking 3 different forms of Magnesium ? Is your stomach not affected ? What improvements have you noticed ? So keen to know more.
Click on the link above and it should take you there (German Company Hepatica) I find it good to have a complex of magnesium as they all do slightly different things so depending on what you are targeting you can find a complex to suit....even by taking the recommended 4 capsules it's only 220mg elemental magnesium in total so 58% daily intake
My head is clearer, muscles happier and sleep better... no stomach issues with this mix... I think it's citrate if you want to speed up your bowels 🙃
Thank you. So interesting… yet, up to the past few weeks , I knew very little about the wonders of Magnesium. Thanks for the link. Will order and see how it works for me. I certainly do not need Mg Citrate… 😊
Forgot to mention bones it's essential for strong ones and I believe works with Vit D in this area (is that right greygoose ?).... stops the horrible nagging bone ache too
Indeed, VitD3, plus VitK2MK7 and Magnesium plus Boron all work together in the absorption of calcium from food . However if taking Warefrin one mustn’t take VitK2. But there are more modern anticoagulants now so that should not be a problem but always check before taking.
I'm thinking we have moved more towards K2 MK7 as it has a longer half life and is considered 'natural' as made from fermented soya beans (though I think they make a synthetic version too now)
Vit D and magnesium work together, yes. But, JGBH it's the vit D itself that increases the absorption of calcium from food, I think. And the K2 makes sure it goes into the bones and teeth. And I'm pretty sure that it's K1 people shouldn't take whilst on blood-thinners. K2 is not the same.
Hi, yes.. thank you. I thought that both forms of VitK had to be avoided if taking Warfarin, I did read something about that quite a while ago and tbh can’t remember the article now. Anyway always worth checking if one is on anti coagulants. Last year I asked a vascular surgeon about this and he advised me to simply stop taking any VitK …even though I am not on blood thinners! He then asked me why I asked him that question … so replied because he was a vascular surgeon and I expected him to know anything related to blood and circulation … This points out that in fact they know very little. Quite scary.
They certainly know nothing about nutrients! I asked one doctor about taking magnesium many years ago, and he laughed. He, said well, take it if you want, it won't do you any harm, but it won't do you any good. And yet another GP told me that B12 was 'just' a vitamin! It really is very scary.
So I have just read on the Bone Health blog, that no form of vitamin K should be used by anyone on warfarin …. I knew I had read this before… but could not remember. They were praising the use of VitK2MK7 as good for bones, cardiovascular system and the whole body … but reminded people who are on warfarin to not take VitK, either in K1 or K2 forms. So always worth checking…. although not sure many GPs would be aware,
Well, all I can say is that opinions are divided. There are just as many articles/blogs say that you can take it with Warfarin as there are saying you can't. But, the thing is that, if you don't, calcium can block up the arteries and you have a heart attack anyway! So, you pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
Like many situations in medicine nothing is ever straight forward and simple. At least I feel happier that I am not quite losing the plot yet! However this blog looks at research papers, not just dispensing opinions .
When you are on warfarin you have to monitor your INR- this is done by a finger prick test or a Venus draw. Depending on why you are taking warfarin you will have an INR target which for some will be around 2, however for people that are avoiding clotting, they may have to have INR of 3 or higher.
If their INR gets too high they will be given VIT K to lower their INR. Eating green leafy veggies can also do the same thing!
This is why people who are on warfarin should NOT take VIT K. Other DOACs and Heparin work differently so VIT K should still be used under medical supervision only.
Yes, thank you, I'm well aware of all that - been there, done that - but that was not the question. The question was: is K2 the same in it's effects as K1? Some say it is, some say it isn't. Who is right and how is wrong?
I'm not sure what your comments means/implies but "expensive" is a RELATIVE term if you get me - all US products are subject to ridiculous taxes/import duties that make things seem "expensive" (it's been the same for aeons, e.g. a non fiction book from the US would be at least double) but often the contents of the book is actually "invaluable".
Hello, What is MacuShield,l? And how does it work ? To be honest I felt quite shell shocked when I was told it was AMd, so much so that I froze and unlike my usual self asking questions I was numbed. The ophthalmologist didn’t exactly expand either… so very poor service and was told not bad enough for treatment ! Really, these people are arrogant. So I will now send an email asking for explanation and am not prepared to put up with second rate treatment. It’s my sight, my life not theirs. How long have you had this? Any treatment ? How is your sight?
Gosh, I replied to you on my phone and it appears not to have bern delivered.
I don’t have AMD - I’ve got something odd in the epithelial layer so I take them as a preventative. My husband is a retired optometrist and before he retired he saw a lot of real success stories with people who were taking it. There are similar products but I think the real MacuShield is worth paying for. Boots sell them on three for two but I buy mine from Amazon, not sure what they charge but it must be less than what boots charge also I just use the basic MacuShield not the MacuShield Gold
MacuShield Capsules are derived of three carotenoids found in naturally occurring plants and play a vital role in maintaining the health of our eyes. They also contain additional nutrients which have been shown in various eye care studies to strengthen eye cells and improve your vision: here’s what’s in them.
• Lutein (10mg)
• Meso-zeaxanthin (10mg)
• Zeaxanthin (2mg)
• *Zinc (25mg)
• *Copper (2mg)
• *Vitamin C (500mg)
• *Vitamin E (268mg)
• Sunflower Seed Oil
• Capsule Shell (Gelatin, Glycerol, Colour: Iron Oxide)
• Marigold Extract
• Beeswax
* MacuShield Gold contains additional vitamins and minerals. Ingredients may change depending on manufacturer, please check packaging.
Thank you. Very useful information. Am going to read the link and investigate on Google. Such supplements I also want to discuss with the ophthalmologist who gave me very little information… However, I have a feeling she won’t know or says it would not make a difference… otherwise she would have mentioned it to me as it must have been quite obvious I was upset and I nearly cried..
I think it’s trial and error to find a magnesium type that suits you. I’ve settled on glycinate as I’ve found this gentler on the stomach. I prefer to take it early evening as it helps me relax/ unwind after work!
Well, I did read once that it should be taken six hours away from thyroid hormone! But that would be somewhat impracticable for most people. And now I can't find the article - didn't save it, silly me. But at least four hours, yes.
I take SlowMag, I believe it's American, but also available widely in Poland. It's magnesium chloride, I take 2 tabs before sleep, works great for me. It's not a supplement, it's medicine OTC and it slowly gets aborbed in the intestine, so zero irritation or gastro issues
I use Magnesium Citrate powder (750mg elemental) added to a 2 litre bottle of water and drink it throughout the day. I was advised to take this dose in an attempt to avoid a high dose of Propanolol, so far it’s working but I’m only approaching end of week 3. I haven’t had any stomach issues/ side effects.
I’m undiagnosed so not taking thyroid meds, I don’t know if this method is suitable for members taking Levo meds etc.
These seem to fit the bill always checkout reviews on their website. I've found with these & other vitamins from them I'm improving energy levels(ok I do too much & end up tired)
British Supplements I'd recommend no fillers & do a triple magnesium capsule.
Since I sometimes re-share this link, thought I’d note for the record which Magnesium I ultimately chose.
I prioritized addressing my brain fog. Which has improved but not sure if it’s been due to my optimizing Free Ts.
That being says both my daughter and I after a month of being on them found we stopped needing melatonin to fall asleep. So I’m feeling pretty confident these are helping me overall as they promise. (Also, this benefit for me happened when I am only taking 2 a day… I’ll be increasing to the recommended 3 a day next titration period.)
Amandean Magnesium Complex is a dietary supplement that provides a blend of 3 highly bioavailable forms of magnesium including Magnesium L-threonate (Magtein), Magnesium Glycinate (Bisglycinate Chelate) and Magnesium Malate (DiMagnesium Malate). The formula is designed to support optimal magnesium levels in the body, promoting overall well-being and supporting various bodily functions such as muscle and nerve function, energy production, sleep support, calm and relaxation.
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