This result is showing that you have yet to optimize your dose and could do with a small increase as your fT4 is only 70% with your fT3 at 44%
Time of testing can make a significant difference to TSH but also if you are new to Levo it takes a good few months for things to settle in even when you think you are at your optimal dose, small tweaks can make all the difference
Once you start taking Levo generally your thyroid slows any production of hormones so you then need to up your dose until fully replaced
p.s. have Medichecks changed their ranges? They always used to be 12-22 and 3.1-6.8
No idea about medichecks ranges as this is my first time. I think I made a typo with the 23. Will change that.
I have been on 50mcg levothyroxine since the start of October. My GP has been saying everything is normal since. I have never felt normal. The only symptom that went away was hairloss, every other symptom has stuck around.
Here's the good bit..... GP ran my bloods last month and think I don't need one for another year or unless symptoms return... You know, the ones that never went away.
I hsve submitted my test results to the GP this morning then submitted an econsult talking about it. They have booked a telephone consult for "tomorrow afternoon".
I'm afraid this is often how it goes and you need to be well informed and quite forceful to get the correct dose 😕 we are all on a mission to educate our GP's, let's hope you can talk sense into them tomorrow, might be worth looking at the NICE guidelines that they should follow so that you can prompt them... nice.org.uk/guidance/NG145
Also worth mentioning you have received guidance from Thyroid UK who recommend a TSH of 1 or below along with symptom relief
It's a bit of 'reading the room technique' if you come across too smart they often get a bit high handed so worth asking how they 'feel' about the guidelines, then you know what you are dealing with and if it's time to change GP!.... some are quite honest and say they haven't a clue and are happily guided by your greater knowledge 😳
I hope so. I don't feel I could accept a cfs diagnosis until I felt everything else is the best it can be. I don't feel kt is yet.
Also, I accept that with Hashimoto's and high TPO there will be flare ups and life might never be exactly what it was before.. But I feel there is more that can be done.
Try not to get to anxious about it, your bloods show you need an increase but they might insist they retest you before agreeing, have a few bullet points written down, if they sound reluctant you can always ask for a trial increase... but the fact is you are on a child's dose currently so I'm sure a rise will be forthcoming 🤗
Thanks. I've had a flare up these last few days and a lot of emotional labilty (I will be making a separate post about that). So, it's really hard to be calm about it.
Obsidian thank you for giving me a huge out loud laugh on this miserable Monday morning. “Unless symptoms return. … You know, the ones that never went away.”
They really are desperate to get rid of us, aren’t they. They are not even ashamed of not listening!
Were these results before or after you started supplementing?
Multivits arent recommended in this group for many rzeasons including too lower dose of anything and not being able to raise low levels to optimal, cheap, inactive ingredients, containing iodine which isnt recommended, the list goes on.
You would be betetr off replacing your multivit with a good methyl/active type B complex. Some suggestions: Slightly cheaper options with inactive B6:
Its not recommended to supplement ferritin unless you've had a full iron panel and been showed to need iron. Its preferable to increase iron rich foods in your diet. Chicken livers, pate, red meat etc
Vitamin D should be around 100 - 150. Buy one that includes vit K2 to help it go to your bones. Some are available in oil or you can take it with an oily meal for better absorption. Many members like the ‘Better You’ range of mouth sprays that contain both bit D & K2. Use this calculator to work out how much to take to get your level to 100-150.grassrootshealth.net/projec...
Recommended blood test protocol: Test at 9am (or as close as possible), fasting, last levo dose 24hrs before the blood draw & no biotin containing supplements for 3-7 days (Biotin can interfere with thyroid blood results as it is used in the testing process).
Testing like this gives consistency in your results and will show stable blood levels of hormone and highest TSH which varies throughout the day. Taking Levo/T3 just prior to blood draw can show a falsely elevated result and your GP/Endo might change your dose incorrectly as a result.
Wich B12 supplement are you taking? Your level was very low. Are you vegan or vegetarian?
I am not vegetarian or vegan but my vitamins are. I am dairy intolerant.
I am aware my levothyroxine has lactose but am not ready to address that. Thinking maybe it's the only thing keeping me from being constipated as well as everything else.
I think your low B12 is very likely contributing to your tiredness and fatigue. What was your B12 level before you started supplementing?
The Boots B12 supplement is a very low amount that isn't going to bring your level up anywhere near to where it needs to be.
B12 - do you have symptoms of B12 deficiency? The reference range for B12 is very wide and cut off point too low. theb12society.com/signs-and...
You should have a conversation with your GP about the possibility of pernicious anaemia and not change supplement until you have as you may need further blood tests. Tell them you have been supplementing and your level is still low.
If GP dosnt help then then start with a methyl B12 sublingual spray or lozenge for a week, then add a good B complex. Once you run out of the separate B12 and your level is over 75 active B12 just continue with the B complex.
I will. I have a phone call tomorrow and if they let me will squeeze that question in... Otherwise will do a separate econsult when the system opens again.
As for vitamins. The multivitamin I have taken for a few years. B12 since the summer and omega 3 just s few weeks.
I have been trying to consume more protein as part of my energy management and my Ferritin has increased since then so has been trending upwards. Struggling to eat any more protein than I do now though due to loss of appetite.
PROGRESS!! Just had my phone consultation with a different doctor and we came to the agreement of going from 50-75 levo. I hoped for 6 weeks but she said test in 10 weeks. She isn't putting it on prescription and calling it a three month trial until the next tsh test says it's ok. I will do a medichecks test around the same time to check the rest.
In terms of vitamins levels, she said as long as they fall in range the nhs won't give any treatment.
She then asked why I had so much anxiety over my thyroid and vitamin levels and I replied felt that was unfair to say as I am actually ill. She apologised and asked me better questions and was able to understand my perspective.
Soooo.... I can handle working on vit d and Ferritin myself but need help choosing something appropriate for B vitamins and Folate.
If Chronic fatigue syndrome most are never helped with Levo they are better on T3 & GP's cannot give T3 it has to be an Endocrinologist or functional Doctor
I just did the full panel on thyroid with medichecks waiting on the test now. How did you get diagnosed with Hashimoto's?
I went back looked at an old test 2015 I never realized the FREE T3 was Low the result said 'insufficient' does this sound like hypothyroid or autoimmune?
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