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Hi I’d be really grateful if anyone can help with these Latest results ?

The doctor said my TSH was too low but T3 and T4 in range and I could be over medicated now!

Is the TSH too low can anyone help ?

I’m still taking 1.5 Thyrogold tablets currently but over last 3 weeks I’ve added Nutri adrenal tablets x 3 and b vits, iron and vit D so maybe that’s why and I still feel as tired as when hypo. Wierd .

TSH 0.08 range 0.27 -4.2

T3 5.71. range. 3.1 -6.8

T4. 18.3. range. 12-22

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TSH 0.08 range 0.27 -4.2

T3 5.71. range. 3.1 -6.8

T4. 18.3. range. 12-22

The doctor said my TSH was too low but T3 and T4 in range and I could be over medicated now!

Absolutely nothing wrong with your results. Next time tick the box that says "Results only, no doctor's comments" - their comments are generally worthless as they, like all GPs, are slaves to the TSH and disregard the actual thyroid hormone levels that FT4 and FT3 show. Members of the forum give far more accurate interpretation of thyroid results than the usual Medichecks comments.

You are taking Thyrogold and Tammy Lowe has declared hormone content in them, so the fact that they contain T3 means that your TSH will lower.

You are only overmedicated if FT3 goes over range.

over last 3 weeks I’ve added Nutri adrenal tablets x 3 and b vits, iron and vit D so maybe that’s why and I still feel as tired as when hypo. Wierd .

You have added far too many things in too short a time. We should only add one thing at a time and leave 2 weeks before adding the next one. The reason for this is because if we have an adverse reaction at least if we add them one at a time we will know what has caused it, by adding so many things all together you wouldn't know what causes the reaction.

Why Nutri Adrenal? Have you tested your adrenals with a 24 hour saliva test that measures cortisol plus DHEA? If not then you can't know if your adrenals need addressing.

Your ferritin level was 50 when you posted your results before, although this is low it's not low enough to suggest iron deficiency anaemia. Self supplementing with iron tablets is not a good idea. You would need an iron panel to know if you had iron deficiency and a full blood count to know if you had anaemia, if so then your GP should address this and monitor you with regular tests. If you already have a good serum iron level then taking iron tablets will send it over the top and too much iron is as bad as too little.

You can help raise your level by eating liver regularly, maximum 200g per week due to it's high Vit A content, also liver pate, black pudding, and including lots of iron rich foods in your diet

apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...

How much Vit D are you taking? With a level of 77nmol/L you'd probably need about 2,000-3,000iu D3 daily.

Are you also going to take D3's important cofactors - magnesium and Vit K2-MK7?

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Excellent advice. What a powerhouse of energy and competence!

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Blackpanther46

Hi Seaside Suzie ok thanks I will do that then and it’s good to know it’s ok then and I can stop panicking

I added those things after reading DR Peatfields book about treating the adrenals for at least 2 weeks before starting NDT and I’m switching from Thyrogold 1.5 tablets to TRU thyroid as it’s cheaper plus thyrogold is a glandular and not a NDT

I thought I was meant to take Nutri adrenal and b vits

I am going to start on 1 grain of Tru thyroid so 1/2 grain twice a day is this right for swooping from a glandular to NDT and build up slowly to 1.5 grains

Tammy from Thyrogold says what I’m taking is equivalent to 1.5 grains of NDT

Have I misunderstood things or not?

I took Nutri thyroid after doing Dr Rinds cortisol testing with body temps plus the dilated pupil test with a flashlight and it seemed I was adrenally weak

No saliva test done though

I took iron because my ferritin was 50 and I can’t stand eating liver or pate or black pudding so I thought taking an iron spatone satchet would increase ferritin

Am I wrong with this?

Vit D taking 2000ius daily

Taking 200mg magnesium not vit k

Thanks for your advice I really appreciate it. 😊

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Blackpanther46

Blackpanther46

I thought I was meant to take Nutri adrenal and b vits

The problem is that unless you test and know your levels then you could possibly already have a decent cortisol level that doesn't need raising, or even a cortisol level that's high and taking a glandular will take it too high.

I took Nutri thyroid after doing Dr Rinds cortisol testing with body temps plus the dilated pupil test with a flashlight and it seemed I was adrenally weak

No saliva test done though

I remember doing that dilated pupil test and it was inaccurate in my case, and as we Hypos generally tend to have lower temps than healthy people I don't know how accurate it can be for testing adrenals. At least a saliva test tells you what's going on over 24 hours.

plus thyrogold is a glandular and not a NDT

You may be interested in this :

thyroidpaul.com/the-amount-...

Tammy from Thyrogold says what I’m taking is equivalent to 1.5 grains of NDT

Have I misunderstood things or not?

TruThyroid is comes as 1/2 grain tablets and 2 tablets (1 grain) are said to contain 37.4mcg T4 and 8.86mcg T3. You'll be able to do the maths from the link I gave above.

I took iron because my ferritin was 50 and I can’t stand eating liver or pate or black pudding so I thought taking an iron spatone satchet would increase ferritin

Am I wrong with thi s?

As explained, if your serum iron is already high, supplementing with iron can take it too high.

Taking 200mg magnesium not vit k

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and Vit K2-mk7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissue where it can be deposited and cause problems like calcification of arteries and kidney stones.

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Blackpanther46

Thanks for your brilliant advice how on earth do you remember all of this your amazing!

I’ll do a saliva test and it seems like I don’t need the adrenal glandular anymore .

That article about thyrogold is perfect for conversation I’ll try to work it out . I think it’s 120 mg of NDT if I’ve done my maths properly?

Just one more question sorry

Should I start on 1 grain a day or 2 grains a day for 2 weeks then increase by 1/4 grain slowly ?

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