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Still no access to your online GP Medical Records? This could be why.

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An interesting report from the Patient Coalition for AI, Data and Digital Tech in Heath looking at patients use of the NHS App found that a third of those surveyed had no access to test results and medical records.

The survey found that some GP’s have prevented access to some health records despite NHS England requesting they are made available to patients.

One of the recommendations in the report states the NHS App could be improved by

“2. Providing universal access to information (including test results and medical records) to enable all patients to be involved in managing their own healthcare through the App if they wish. While GP’s restricting information via the App May call this “stewardship”, many people in the survey and in the Steering Group perceive this as GP’s acting as gatekeepers disempowering patients. It is felt that GP’s shouldn’t be able to control the flow of information, as this results in a lack of consistency and leads to disadvantage.”

The full report can be found here

patients-association.org.uk...

Many people continue to be frustrated by this continued refusal to access their information.

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humanbean profile image
humanbean

I wonder if access has been blocked for patients with flags on their records.

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Sparklingsunshine in reply to humanbean

I have had on off access to my full record. My surgery initially released it back in November but then back tracked. Now they want patients to fill in a form and bring in photo ID to release their record, yet another layer of bureacracy. And not everyone has photo ID, I dont.

I got very shirty with my surgery, told them to stop infantilising patients and got my access reinstated. My husband and son dont have access and very rarely go to the doctors, neither has ever had a mental health issue or red flag. I think our surgery default is deny access until forced to release it. Very unsatisfactory.

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DJR1 in reply to humanbean

Sadly some GP Practices have not switched on record access following the December switch-on recommended by NHSE. They continue to oppose patients reading their records and describe this as stewardship. Individual patients may have been refused access on safety grounds but this cannot account for over a third of those surveyed venting their frustration as they don’t have access.

So what's being done to make GP's allow access? If its the guidelines why isnt it being enforced?

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DJR1 in reply to Sparklingsunshine

That is a very good question, who will or can enforce it? GP Practices are independent businesses and only work under contract to the NHS. They are not managed by the NHS and as I was told by the RCGP they have autonomy in deciding how they run their practice. The GMS contract did include this requirement as a contractual obligation but this is flouted by some and there is no retribution. Until the GP model is changed and moved within the NHS I cannot see anything changing.

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greygoose

One way round this is to adopt the French method: the lab gives the results directly to the patient. You go to the lab before 8 am and they take your blood. And you can go and pick up the results after 6 pm - or someone can pick them up for you. Doctors receive results by email. So, when you go to see your doctor next time you have your results in your hand and can discuss them.

I don't think UK doctors like giving up the power they feel it gives them having patients that haven't a clue what their results are and therefore can't argue.

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Framboise

My surgery put all the information they could think of online at least 7 years ago, including details of every GP appointment going back 15 years before that, which was brilliant and allowed me to work out some hitherto unexplained test results and also see some very odd entries.

They removed it all during 2020, but in 2021 most of it went back online and I went through it again and listed everything that was odd, wrong, incomplete, or missing - which included all mention of my thyroid condition, treated since 2001, but still not recognised by the NHS. It also included things that weren't wrong with me! I then emailed the list to the GPs, together with scans of some of the missing consultants' letters, and now most of it has either been corrected or reappeared.

It seems to me that my surgery uses it as some sort of training exercise but then doesn't check the detail.

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mrskiki

I applied ages ago and nothing happened, then suddenly without any warning the other week after an appointment I notice what looks like more information, however everything before that including previous test results has now disappeared from view ….

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tattybogle

personally , i'm not going to be relying on any form of online access. Wouldn't trust it as far as i could throw it ... far too many examples of stuff appearing then disappearing . I have got everything historic on a password protected disc ... got it the old fashioned way by SAR request... and i get anything new as i go along by going and asking nicely for a printout ... if there is anything more complicated than blood test results that i want to have a look at in future , i'll do another SAR.

justcallmeluddite :)

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

DJR1,

Your repeated attempts to find out, to dig, and to let our members know by posting are very much appreciated.

Thank you

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serenfach

They are not bothering to do anything in Wales if my practice is anything to go by! They have a new "portal" for requesting repeat prescriptions but is often down, with 404 error.

HighlandMo profile image
HighlandMo

does anyone know if patients in Scotland get online access?

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to HighlandMo

"The" NHS app is England only.

A derived and limited form of that is available in Wales.

I am not aware of any equivalent available in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

The legal basis for gaining access is, I think, the same across all four nations. But how access is achieved varies.

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DJR1 in reply to HighlandMo

There were plans but there has been no update since 2017.

alliance-scotland.org.uk/di...

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Heappestre

Interesting. My husbands test records on the app go back to 2007, mine were not showing at all. To give the surgery their due, I put an admin query through on their website Friday lunchtime and within 2h, I had been given access to this year's test records. No sign of the history before that though.

But the rest of my online GP record is a mess. Conditions as active that aren't active, active life long conditions as past, some not appearing at all. Oh, and my only active medication is the covid vaccine I had in Oct, not my asthma inhalers. It really is so random that I'm considering asking for a copy of my full record from the GP surgery and both NHS hospitals that have treated me and piece it all together myself!

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