hi as advised in my last post I got my blood tests results today please could someone check them because I don’t understand them I don’t know what I’m looking for regarding my thyroid thankyou grey goose if your about x
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All they've tested for thyroid is TSH and cholesterol - although I bet they don't know that cholesterol is to do with thyroid!
Your TSH is high-ish, but your FT3 is probably low, which is causing the high cholesterol. But can't say for sure, of course.
TSH on its own tells you nothing about your thyroid status when it gets down to that level. But pretty sure your thyroid hormones are low because all your nutrients are low. Pity they didn't even test FT4! That would have given us more of a clue. 
Thankyou does that mean my thyroxine needs increasing and should I be worried about my cholesterol level it’s quite high I’m panicking a bit 😂 changed all my diet in last couple of weeks x
There a waste of time I didn’t know that my thyroid could be causing the high cholesterol x
Cholesterol levels have nothing to do with your diet. It's made in the liver and the liver keeps the level steady, so the more you eat, the less it makes, and vice versa. However, when T3 is low, the body cannot process cholesterol correctly so it tends to build up in the blood.
No need to panic! Cholesterol is your friend, not your enemy. Your body is made of cholesterol: the brain, cell walls and sex hormones. And, even when it's high like that it doesn't cause heart attacks or strokes. That's just the medical profession and Big Pharma trying to scare you into taking statins! When all you really need is a little T3.
Artificially reducing cholesterol levels with statins can cause more harm than good. Cholesterol is nature's sticking plaster which repairs damaged arteries. Remove the cholesterol and there's nothing to protect you from a heart attack. Without cholesterol the body cannot repair itself and regenerate. And low sex hormones are not something anybody wants to have!
So, embrace your cholesterol but try and increase your T3 anyway. Can you do a private test to find out how well you convert?
How did I increase t3 I don’t understand any of it lol but you’ve put me at ease a bit over the high cholesterol though I was heading for a stroke or heart attack I once tried statins but they made me ill never again x
They make a lot of people ill - especially if the person is hypo.
To improve conversion, the first step is to improve your nutrient levels. All nutrients need to be optimal for your body to be able to use the hormone you're giving it.
When will you see the endo again? Whenever it is, in the meantime you're going to need to learn as much as you can about your disease so that you can stand your ground when you see him again.
Oh, and yes, your levo does need increasing.
I will not see them now for another 6 months I’m currently on 175mg would you up it to 200mg I was on 300mg in the past and also do I need to be taking any vitamins I’m sorry about all the questions but I can’t ever get to talk to a doctor there like good dust lol x
Well, odds are you wouldn't find a doctor that knew anything about nutrients anyway. They just don't do it in med school so believe it is of no importance.
So, yes, you should be taking supplements. If I were you, I would start with B12. 1000 mcg sublingual methylcobalamin (B12) for two weeks, then add a good B complex. A good B complex has all 8 of the Bs, with methylcobalamin as B12, and methylfolate as folate. And nothing else.
Vit D and ferritin can be discussed at a later date.
Difficult to say by how much to increase your levo because we don't know what your level is. Could you possibly do full thyroid testing (TSH/FT4/FT3) privately?
Yes I will do that because I have all sorts of symptoms still cold feet all the time I eat healthy and it takes ages just to lose 2 pounds my legs ache and my skin is dry and hair thin so I need to do something I’m ok taking those vitamins with my high blood pressure tablet which is atenolol 50 mg by the way my blood pressure fine about only thing that is 😂 and thankyou you’ve been great it’s hard when you don’t know anything about these things x
That's why this forum exists.
By the way, do you know that high blood pressure can be a hypo symptom?
No I didn’t 😂 funny that cos I’ve had both conditions for about 30 years and both was diagnosed around the same time x
Could you please recommend the best b vitamins to take x
Slightly cheaper options with inactive B6:
amazon.co.uk/Liposomal-Soft...
Contains B6 as P5P an active form:
bigvits.co.uk/thorne-resear...
healf.com/products/basic-b-...
Explanation about the different forms of B6:
helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...
B complex comparison spreadsheet:
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Thankyou x
No, doctors don't know it, either! They think that high blood pressure is a hyper symptom, and that hypos have low blood pressure. But, it's not as simple as that! Anyway, high blood pressure is not a disease, it's a symptom.
For sublingual B12 either Jarrows or Solgar. There's not much choice. For a B complex there's Thorne's Basic C, and Igennus Super B Complex. That's what I take. There are others, but can't remember their names.
Aww thankyou will order some and I will up my thyroxine by 25mg see if that works how long after increase does it take to start feeling better thanks xx
Impossible to say, it varies from person to person and dose to dose.
After taking the b12 for 2 weeks do you still take it when starting the b complex
Yes, continue until you've finished the pot.
Ok and thankyou for all your information you’ve been a lot better than the doc 😂 xx
Well your doctor knows nothing about nutrients. And very little about hormone!
Definitely not no wonder I don’t feel right all time xx
And I bet he has no idea why!
Are these the right ones please x
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Yes, they're the ones. To begin with, I would take the melts, rather than the slow-release. Because if there's any problem with your gut you might not get the full benefit from slow-release.
Great thanks xx
After taking the b12 for 2 weeks do you still take it when starting the b complex x
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Suggest you get FULL Thyroid and vitamin testing 6 weeks after taking vitamin B complex
IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results
endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...
endocrinenews.endocrine.org...
In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12
Post discussing how biotin can affect test results
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helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...
Ferritin is low. Look at increasing iron rich foods in your diet
Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption
List of iron rich foods
how much vitamin D are you taking
Test twice year when supplementing
NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £31 via
Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test
This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)
Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins
Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing
Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins
medichecks.com/products/adv...
Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins
bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...
Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.
Link about thyroid blood tests
thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...
Link about Hashimoto’s
thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...
Symptoms of hypothyroidism
thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...
Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test
See detailed reply by SeasideSusie
healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...
Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee
Hi I won’t get another blood test done at my doctors now for another 6 months so I might go for a private test did you say my iron was low I love all the great advice of everyone your all so clued up I wouldn’t know where to start x
I’m not taking any vitamin d at the moment x
Aim to keep ferritin over 70
If ferritin drops even lower get full iron panel test before ever considering iron supplements
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...
Serum ferritin level is the biochemical test, which most reliably correlates with relative total body iron stores. In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency.
Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first and retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.
It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron
Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test
Medichecks iron panel test
medichecks.com/products/iro...
Links about iron and ferritin
irondisorders.org/too-littl...
davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...
Great in-depth article on low ferritin
oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...
drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...
This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.
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Posts discussing Three Arrows as very effective supplement
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Iron patches
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Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones
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Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin
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Iron and thyroid link
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Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test
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Good iron but low ferritin
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Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low
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Shellfish and Mussels are excellent source of iron
healthline.com/nutrition/he...
Iron deficiency without anaemia
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Ferritin over 100 to alleviate symptoms
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Great research article discussing similar…..ferritin over 100 often necessary
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
Low Iron implicated in hypothyroidism
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Ferritin range on Medichecks
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Inflammation affecting ferritin
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We have received further information the lab about ferritin reference ranges. They confirm that they are sex dependent up to the age of 60, then beyond the age of 60 the reference range is the same for both sexes:
Males 16-60: 30-400 ug/L
Female's: 16-60: 30-150
Both >60: 30-650
The lower limit of 30 ug/L is in accordance with the updated NICE guidance and the upper limits are in accordance with guidance from the Association of Clinical Biochemists. ‘
It says on this paper that iron is normal so I don’t know I do know I don’t eat a lot of red meat though , I’m going to follow grey goose s advice for now cos it gets to confusing 😂 no offence x
Important to improve all four vitamins
Only add one new supplement at a time starting with separate B12, a week later add separate vitamin B complex
Meanwhile get vitamin D tested, likely low if not supplementing
At look at increasing iron rich foods in your diet.
Yes I will do thankyou x
Do you mean come off the b12 when starting the b complex a week later x
No continue both until B12 is over 500
Low B12 symptoms
b12deficiency.info/signs-an...
methyl-life.com/blogs/defic...
With serum B12 result below 500, (Or active B12 below 70) recommended to be taking a separate B12 supplement and a week later add a separate vitamin B Complex
Then once your serum B12 is over 500 (or Active B12 level has reached 70), you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.
If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week
B12 drops
natureprovides.com/products...
Or
B12 sublingual lozenges
uk.iherb.com/pr/jarrow-form...
cytoplan.co.uk/shop-by-prod...
B12 range in U.K. is too wide
Interesting that in this research B12 below 400 is considered inadequate
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Low folate
supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)
This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help improve B12 levels too
Difference between folate and folic acid
healthline.com/nutrition/fo...
Many Hashimoto’s patients have MTHFR gene variation and can have trouble processing folic acid.
thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...
B vitamins best taken after breakfast
Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)
Thorne currently difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay
Other options
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Igennus B complex popular option too. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose
IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results
endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...
endocrinenews.endocrine.org...
In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12 until over 500
Post discussing how biotin can affect test results
healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...
helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...
Thankyou my pills have just arrived currently got one under my tongue lol I went for the igennus there the ones grey goose recommended and they had really good reviews thanks for all the information x
I use a mix of Igennus and Thorne. One per day ….usually Igennus 4 days a week and Thorne 3 days
I like Igennus best….easy to swallow, small pills
I will let you know when I start feeling a difference x
Come back with new post once you get vitamin D result
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