Hi everyone, I’m not sure whether this is just coincidence but since the vaccines last one was in May, my heart rate has increased by 10-15 bpm resting and it goes over 100 just putting my shoes on which is very unlike my heart rate. Normally I find it hard to increase my heart rate. I just wonder whether this is a side effect of the vaccines or is it possible that you could randomly need less levothyroxine? My latest results are below. Or could low folate cause an increase in heart rate?
TSH-0.82 mIU/L range 0.27-4.2
FT4 16.3 pmol/L range 12-22
FT3 4.7 pmol/L range 3.1-6.8
T4-90 nmol/L range 66-181
TPOAb 99.6 Kiu/L range 0-34
TgAB 418 KU/L range 0-115
Vitamin D 96 nmol/L range 50-200
Folate 8 nmol/L range 8.83-45
Ferritin 219 ug/L range 30-400
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I didn’t do B12 because the last time I did it, it was in range. However this was 1st March this year before both my vaccines. Also looking at previous post I was worried about low heart rate only 3 months ago so actually my heart rate didn’t change until after this. So it might not be vaccination related. It’s just weird that everything has gone downhill. I currently take vitamin D3 2000iu and 200mg of magnesium.
I’m not on a strictly gluten free diet and I’ve had a coeliac blood test which was negative.
So you have high antibodies this is known by medics here in UK as autoimmune thyroid disease.
Technically it’s Hashimoto's (with goitre) or Ord’s thyroiditis (no goitre). Both variants are autoimmune and more commonly just called Hashimoto’s
Hashimoto's frequently affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels
Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working
Poor gut function with Hashimoto’s can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.
According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but further 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)
Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal
Aa result is negative can consider trialing strictly gluten free diet for 3-6 months. Likely to see benefits.
If no obvious improvement, reintroduce gluten see if symptoms get worse.
The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported
In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned
Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.
supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid) may be beneficial.This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help improve B12 levels too
Thorne Basic B or Jarrow B Right are recommended options that contains folate, but both are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)
IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results
If I had a poor gut function and low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working that would make my TSH higher rather than lower right? Since June it’s gone from 1.5 to 0.82. My heart rate is higher which would somewhere along the lines coincide with my TSH dropping. Is it possible everything speeding up could use more vitamins? Therefore do I fix the faster heart rate or the lack of vitamins or both? Should I drop to 50mcg levothyroxine to see if my heart rate goes back to normal? Or could it be the lack of folate that’s causing the higher heart rate?
Hi. I think you're a bit hyperthyroid. I wouldn't simply decrease your levo without talking to a doctor first. Have you changed the brand of your levothyroxine recently? Since I moved to the UK, I've been feeling incredibly ill taking levothyroxine here. I also feel worse after the vaccine coincidently. But I think it's more likely it's the levo I'm taking, as I've stopped for 5 or 6 days now to test and most of my symptoms eased a lot, including palpitations I was having. I'm not a specialist, so my humble advice would be for to check which is the levothyroxine you're taking first, if it's the same you can risk dropping 25% of your levo.
No I’ve always tried to stay on the same ones and currently on wockhardt which is what I’ve always taken in 25mcg. However you’ve just made me realise around 11 weeks ago I got my doctors to prescribe my levothyroxine in 25mcg tablets because I was fed up with the pharmacy giving me TEVA brand in 50mcg tablets even though it states clearly on my prescriptions not TEVA brand. So I have been taking 3x25mcg in wockhardt now for that time so could that be why it’s changed my heart rate? Maybe same brand in this dose has had a better affect so to speak?
Check the inactive ingredients… My pulse 6 months ago was normal and I didn’t have to deal with sky rocketing heart rate putting on shoe or dressing like Im currently suffering from these past 3 months absolutely a horrible feeling…. Acacia is a deadly inactive ingredient they sometimes use in thyroid pills for some reason and should be banned in my opinion.
If anything, I’d say you need more Levothyroxine, not less. Both your FT4 and FT3 are only 43% through their ranges. I would not feel brilliant at those levels.
It’s possible your heart rate is connected to cortisol levels. I don’t wholly understand the science, but, in a nutshell, if thyroid hormones are low - especially FT3 - the body often produces more cortisol as a way to try to make up for the lack. You could do a saliva cortisol test, if you’re interested.
In any case, I would certainly not be reducing my Levothyroxine to 50mcg.
Really, that’s really frustrating, how you ever suppose to figure things out. So I need to fix the vitamin levels before figuring out what’s causing the higher heart rate. I’m trying to do it through diet cause dr said it’s better but do I do that or get supplements to help faster.
Which vaccine did you have? The AZ affected my heart rate, to the point where it was quite alarming…constant resting hr of 125. I had ECG then referred for echocardiogram and had to wait for it to come down before I was allowed the second dose. It’s not returned to pre vaccine rate but the echocardiogram showed it was ok.
First jab mid March, second at the beginning of June, both AZ.My resting heart rate was in the low 60s at the beginning of the year. It dropped at the end of March/beginning of April down to the mid 50s (doesn’t sound much, but makes me feel worse), stayed in the mid to high 50s until the beginning of June when I had all sorts of issues, not related to the vaccine or thyroid, when it increased again to the low 60s. I persuaded the doc to give me a dose increase of levo towards the end of June and it dropped during July to a pretty consistent 57-58bpm, climbed back to the low 60s in August which is where it’s stayed.
I never considered the initial drop to be anything to do with the vaccine, but I did wonder if I’d received a pack of slightly lower potency levo (100mcg, Accord). Since then I’ve started keeping the packets of levo and writing the date I started and finished the packet on the tab, the other side of the batch number. If I see any strange effects again I’ll be able to see if it correlates with any particular batch.
Maybe coincidence but maybe not. There are a number of people wondering if there BP issues are related to the vaccines. POTS is getting a lot of attention. I and some others believe hashimotos could have been triggered by the vaccines. I went from sub clinical to full blown hypothyroidism right after my shots. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
My BP is fine it’s just my HR. My sister has POTS and has got worse since the vaccines. The thing is I’ve gone the opposite way. My HR has increased and my TSH is lower. If the vaccines had triggered anything it would have been for my thyroid to start working. I’m tempted to ask my GP for a script for 50mcg tablets and see if it goes back to normal.
It’s not very descriptive on just palpitations. It’s possible. It’s hard to distinguish. I should of got B12 checked as well. It could be meds or vitamins.
Suggest you at least complete an MHRA yellow card as that's what its for?. TaraJR also reported increased hear rate today after booster.Note palpitations also potential red flag so could/should report to GP.
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