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I’ve had an underactive thyroid for 8 years and been taking 75mg of levothyroxine for the past 2 or 3 years. About 6 months ago this was reduced to 50mg and about 2 months later I discovered a lump on my neck. I was told this was due to overmedicating and I should stop taking thyroxine totally. I was told my thyroid was now hyper. Last week I had more blood tests and the results were as follows:- T3 12.6 pmol/L serum TSH 0.01 mu/L serum free T4 20.7 pmol/L I’m feeling pretty rubbish - anxious, hair falling out, tired, overly sensitive to heat. I’ve also developed a tremor in my hands which is worse in the morning. Do I now have hyperthyroidism? Has anyone experienced anything similar? We’re you given any treatment?

Thank you 😊

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Did you stop all medication 2 months ago? And was this a recent test?

Specifically, how long between no meds & these levels.

We need the lab range. The TSH is low FT4 looks high & FT3 disproportionately higher but we need the range to interpret accurately.

Have you had Thyroid antibodies tested. Has the thyroid & lump been scanned.

Symptoms are very typical with hyper level. Determining the cause is priority.

What does Dr say? Have they offered anti thyroid medication?

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Fizz70 in reply toPurpleNails

Hi thanks for replying. Yes I stopped medication 2 months ago. My T3 levels were 4.7 in October 11.8 in June and then 12.6 in August. My T4 levels were 11.9 in Oct, 23.8 in June then 20.7 in Aug. My TSH levels were 0.13 in Oct, 0.01 in June and 0.01 in Aug.

I’ve had an ultrasound on my thyroid and told it looks swollen and angry but there are no nodules. I haven’t heard anything from my doctor following my last test results I was able to get the results in the patient access app. I’ve just been able to book a telephone appointment with the doctor at end of the month but I’d really like to know what questions I should be asking. Thanks.

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greygoose

Sounds to me as if you have Autoimmune Thyroiditis - aka Hashi's. Have your antibodies been tested? If not, the first question you should ask is: can I have them tested, please? You cannot go from hypo - which you were! - to hyper. It doesn't work like that. Either you are over-medicated or you have Hashi's. And, as you haven't taken any thyroid hormone for two months, that rules out over-medication!

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Fizz70 in reply togreygoose

Thank you for the advice. I’ll do that😊

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greygoose in reply toFizz70

You're welcome. :)

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I would 100% follow advice given to test antibodies. I was diagnosed hyperthyroid with Graves, but after following advice here to test antibodies, tests clearly showed I was hypo with Hashimotos. If your GP is reluctant to test & you can afford the cost you can do this privately (eg using Medichecks which are discounted today/ see an earlier post for link). I’m so glad I tested privately & posted results on the forum, as I was able to challenge my diagnosis & get the correct treatment.

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Fizz70 in reply toBuddy195

Thank you I will ask 😊

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Also absolutely essential to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested for autoimmune thyroid disease also called Hashimoto’s

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £29 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

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Fizz70 in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you for all your advice. I’ll see if I can get these tests done 😊

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toFizz70

Have you had brand change in levothyroxine recently

Which brand of levothyroxine are you currently taking

Or changed your diet or lost or gained weight

Are you vegetarian or vegan

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

Likely to need to test privately

ALWAYS test as early as possible in morning before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Come back with new post once you get results

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Fizz70 in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you so much for all your help. I’ve always had the same brand of levothyroxine. I am vegetarian and I don’t currently take any supplements so I do wonder whether my iron levels are high enough.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toFizz70

How long have you been vegetarian

As a vegetarian it’s recommended to always supplement B12 daily

Suggest you test first to see exactly how deficient you may be

academic.oup.com/nutritionr...

The present review of the literature regarding B12 status among vegetarians shows that the rates of B12 depletion and deficiency are high. It is, therefore, recommended that health professionals alert vegetarians about the risk of developing subnormal B12 status. Vegetarians should also take preventive measures to ensure adequate intake of this vitamin, including the regular intake of B12 supplements to prevent deficiency. Considering the low absorption rate of B12 from supplements, a dose of at least 250 μg should be ingested for the best results.3

And test iron and ferritin regularly at least annually

Full iron panel test via Medichecks if GP won’t

If you need to supplement iron you need to retest 3-4 times a year

Come back with new post once you get results

Aiming for optimal vitamin levels

Vitamin D at least around 80nmol and around 100nmol maybe better

Serum B12 at least over 500

Active B12 at least over 70

Folate and ferritin at least half way through range

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noteboo

I had a similar experience but was asked to continue my medicatation. My swelling did go away on it's own after 4 or 5 months. I did stop levo for a 14 days and found my weight increasing and other hypo symptoms. I resumed my levo and feeling better. Like greygoose mentioned it can be Hashis Thyroiditis even if you are borderline. Hope this helpsMy gp alarmed me and said it was cancer and upon scan after a good while, all is well.

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Fizz70 in reply tonoteboo

Thank you - that’s really reassuring 😊

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