What are your thoughts on this multi supplement

[Noelnoel]

Are there any combinations within this product that shouldn’t be taken together?

There’s iodine in it, which some schools of thought say that Hashimoto’s sufferers should avoid …

Thanks

[Noelnoel]

Sotired123, thank you

Yes, I’ve identified them and take most of my supplements (apart from B12 complex) as separate entities. I’ve tried this brand’s broad spectrum magnesium - which has a reasonable ratio of three or four types of Mg, so thought I’d look at what else they had to offer

It would be wonderful to find one supplement that suits my needs that contains a good dosage as well! I wonder how difficult it is to do that. Perhaps some of us members should put our heads together and produce one! I do know though that iron should also be taken separately

[Noelnoel]

Sotird123, hmm. Doesn’t levo require that we’re optimally nourished for it to be “optimally” effective? I’ve never taken it as I rely on glandulars

What’s your B12 poison then? I take this at the moment

Colour

[Noelnoel]

Silly me, I see that now. The tongue in cheek thing I mean

The body is endlessly fascinating and mysterious but what I do know is, you can’t remove a single body part without it impacting the whole system. Although the impact may be negligible, in time the cumulative effect can be huge

The whole thing is interdependent but the arrogance and ignorance in the medical profession is staggering and they’ll quite happily whip out an organ and pat you on the head

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Noelnoel

Vit C will keep the body from using the B12, they should be taken 2 hours apart.

Calcium and Iodine should be tested before supplementing.

Ideally Zinc should be tested. Zinc and Copper should be balanced. We Hypos tend to have one high and the other low, so we really need to know if we need to supplement.

It doesn't say what form of selenium is used, it should be selenium L-selenomethionine or a yeast bound selenium, not selenite or selenate forms.

As we're always saying here, there is no good Multivitamin supplement, just test and take what you need at the appropriate dose.

[Noelnoel]

Thank you SeasideSusie, especially for the vit c, b12 reminder. It’s a tricky thing, trying to give enough space between taking it all when some of us take so many supplements

[Noelnoel]

Very good, Sotired123. That explains the name!

[Carys21]

I have hashimotos and take iodine ensuring I take the correct amount of selenium and other co factors needed to stop the immune system over reacting. Total avoidance of iodine IMO is illogical, as the body needs it regardless. I do not believe for one moment that the small amount of iodine in a multi will cause any issues. In the iodine crisis book, they claim that the rise in breast cancer correlates with the population drop in iodine - the small amount of iodine in thyroid hormone replacement is not enough for the rest of body to use. For whatever reason people have very strong feelings about it so I try not to get in debates. What I would say is to not listen to people who recommend extremes (total avoidance or massive doses) and look for a balanced view on iodine, Chris Kresser is a good place to start.

[Noelnoel in reply to Carys21]

I should also add that I’ve read some of Chris Kresser, Dr Brownstein and others and they make a powerful and persuasive case for taking it

[Carys21 in reply to Noelnoel]

I follow Brownstein's iodine protocol

[Noelnoel]

Carys21, I agree, there can be a lot of hysteria about iodine but every time I take a product that contains it, my voice becomes hoarse. I was recently advised by a relatively well-known nutritionist/naturopath to try T Life, which is Metavive without the nucleotides. I take Metavive daily but the recently added nucleotides seem to give me palpitations and anxiety. He said the 150mcg of iodine/capsule because it’s such a small amount would be very unlikely to cause adverse effects. Against my better judgement and past experience I took his advice and I became hoarse again with a slightly swollen thyroid gland

I would never tell anyone not to try it but if you’re going to, I wound say proceed with extreme caution and read lots of research from different sources and of course we’re all different with accompanying different lifestyles and diets etc, all of which will affect how much iodine we ingest

[Serendipitious]

Sotired123,

“Alpha Lipoic Acid prevents conversion of T4 to T3.“

Do you have a reference for this?

[Carys21]

If you get a reaction to a small amount I would be looking at upping antioxidants ( vit C, glutathionine) and making sure you are taking 200mcg of L-selenomethionine, although you probably already know that. The theory with the thyroid swelling when you take a small amount of iodine is that the thyroid is trying to grab it (can't believe it's luck) and that eventually wears off. I take between 1mg and 12.5mg of lugols, but I also take a couple months off periodically. With regards to Metavive, I am switching to this soon and I keep hearing conflicting things about it. Hope for Hashimotos book (dr alexander Haskell) has a detailed explanation on how to avoid the inflammation with hashi's when taking iodine.

[Noelnoel in reply to Carys21]

Carys21, I’ve only just spotted your reply!