Depends what you mean by 'adrenaline supplements'.
And we really can't tell you if you need to take more T3 without seeing thyroid blood test results and ranges. So, a little more information needed, please.
No idea I'm afraid, I don't use it nor have I considered it so haven't looked into it, I just know that unless it's deglycyrrhised then liqourice can raise blood pressure and lower potassium so you have to be careful.
I was advised to use Nutriadrenal by Dr P years ago and it didnt really do any good at all at that time. I thought I'd try deglycyrrhised liquorice and have been taking it each morning ever since as it seemed to do the trick. Actually I can't really recall what it was about each of them that I was judging but thought I'd throw that into the pot as you are asking.
So, I don't know why you felt the need to add T3, your conversion was very good. But, now you're on it, you could try adding another 5 mcg to see if it helps.
But, you still haven't said what you mean by 'adrenal supplements'. There are different types.
Hi GreygooseI felt the need do add Lio, as i have these terrible Engery slumps in the afternoon. My Endo suggested that T3 at lunchtime will help, to just balance that out.
It is Nutriadrenal supplement that was recommended.
Do they still make Nutriadrenal? I thought it was no-longer available. Anyway, might help, but doesn't suit everyone. No, it doesn't stop your adrenals from making adrenaline.
Yes I agree you’re converting fine so I wouldn’t bother with the faff of t3 and just increase t4 and retest. You can take t4 once a day and it doesn’t give you ups and downs so better for you if you feel you have adrenal issues.
I've had amazing success with eating liver because iron supplements cause digestive issues. Whenever my ferratin goes below 60( range 12-109) my tsh goes up, and my free t3/t4 get affected as well. My happy spot for ferratin is 70 ug/L.
Hopefully you find better success in feeling better in raising it.
Looks like you need to check out your adrenals some more. Top-notch endocrinologist said to me once the thing you have to be careful about with treating hypothyroidism is not letting the thyroid replacement try to drive your adrenal system which can hide significant problems and become chronic.
As I understood it bumping up t3 over normal levels can hide or temporarily ameliorate symptoms of adrenal insufficiency which then worsened and risks a full blown adrenal crisis. If adrenals are healthy than excess t3 doesn’t risk that particular complication. I know that levothyroxine carries a warning not to treat if adrenals are not sufficient. And my endocrinologist made sure to check my adrenals before prescribing combination t4/t3
I had a Synacthen test, which was fine and that’s reassuring. I definitely do not need steroids.
However I understand (from other knowledgeable members on here) that does not mean your adrenals produce the right amount through the day, hence the saliva test.
Think of an old speedboat with a new motor, I zoomed but a few planks fell off. 😆 I looked awful, but it was fantastic fun.
Just pondering if Levo increased my ability for anabolic respiration??? But lactic acid and oxygen debt have consequences.
It started really innocently, one day at gym one day rest, hmmm. Got addicted to exercise and that feel good hormone effect. Turned into most days at gym, several hours exercise most days not including cycle ride there and back plus extra cycling to pick up supplies most days. 😁. I was hooked. Then I crashed and burned😆. I would would definitely do it all over again if I had the energy.
I take stress support now and a two years break from a gym I'm trying to cycle once a week for now😜. But I have big plans. 😂.
Feeling better/ feeling rested, im more rested and hence exhaustion no longer an issue, but feeling better ?? doubtful as I miss the energy I had to be able to get exhausted. I still do get exhausted but for a lot less and recovery time is tediously slow, im very impatient and like to get out and be doing things.
I was exhausted before I took Levo and exhausted whilst I took Levo but at least the hours of fun getting exhausted was worth it. Being exhausted after doing nothing is no fun at all.
When I get exhausted I mean it to the truest sense of exhaustion, I'm even too tired to inhale and that's the truth.
I tried ubiquinol about a year ago first time, 100mg daily. I was no longer going gym or really cycling at all as was in burn out. I don't remember that exact time it took to improve but at some point after I started taking ubiquinol I noticed I wanted to walk into town. Town is approx 3+ miles approx 7 there and back. I really enjoyed the walk and didn't find it too taxing. The following day I was able to do household chores, I wasn't exhausted. I believe the ubiquinol has made a difference in recovery after exertion.
What no-one has mentioned yet is that the test you have chosen is pretty rubbish.
When testing adrenals, we should test cortisol plus DHEA as the DHEA tells us what stage of adrenal fatigue, if present.
Also, with this test you have two samples with no actual result. Just saying <1.5 is not a result. It's very important for the bedtime sample to know the actual result because it needs to be low in range. With a range of 0-2.0 then saying <1.5 could mean 1.49 and that would be far too high.
Also, ranges are said to be based on healthy people. If anyone did have a result of zero - as shown in these ranges - they would either be very unwell or in the morgue. So those ranges for the last two samples are pretty much a nonsense as are the results.
Both require you to put ThyroidUK as your "practioner".
I prefer Regnerus because the email you direct when results are available, Genova send them to ThyroidUK who will release them when they have received your consent.
The Synacthen test checks if your adrenal glands able to produce hormones and needs to be done by a doctor as you need to be injected with something (adrenaline?) to see how your glands react. Then blood is taken at hourly intervals a few times (three times from memory and that isn’t great 😂).
I have had this done and mine was working.
The saliva test shows how much your adrenal glands are producing throughout the day. As I understand a lot of Doctors do not recognise this.
so your adrenal glands can be working, but not producing enough hormones.
I have ordered the. Regenerus test but not taken it yet. I still feel awful and more tired than for a long time 😞
Thanks for your detailed reply sorry you feel awful, Im same being terrible sick over 6 mths now after catching covid,So Regenerus - Adrenal Function test is Saliva test right ?
Is it home test we do the same as Vitamin.. finger prick ?
“Order an adrenal function profile and get a 10% discount using the code AFPTUK when naming THYROID UK as your referring practitioner”
That is not for Regenerus, that is for Cambridge Nutritional Sciences. It is a more expensive test at £108, take 10% off that and it comes down to £97.20 whereas Regenerus test is £84 and both companies test cortisol plus DHEA.
I have no experience of the Cambridge test so can't comment on it.
Hi SeasideSuie my endo suspected I have adrenal problems & need to do test, take your suggest just check on Regnerus, should I get test Adrenal Function Profile ? is this full test same as it said Synacthen ?Or should I have to take extra test ? I don’t know nothing about this
I have never seen anyone posting results in which the later two samples were taken four days after the earlier two samples, and I wondered why this was done.
I have also never seen anyone asking about adrenaline supplements before. Cortisol and adrenaline are both stress hormones, but I've never seen a test result for adrenaline before, nor a request for info on adrenaline supplements.
Hi HumanbeanThe dates on the test are wrong. Ignore them 😊
I posted on here about my mid afternoon energy slumps. some good folk on here suggested issues with adrenal glands and to have a saliva test for Cortisol, which I did. The results are low and when I showed them to my Endo he suggested the adrenal supplement. I understand this to be a supplement to support your adrenal gland and not adrenaline.
I am trying to get some advice/experience from members on here what to do with all of that, as I am throughly confused.
my Endo is generally really good, but the experience of people on here is invaluable and has helped me a lot in the past. Hence the questions.
Hi PixieElv, did you talk to your Endo about adrenals and DHEA? I keep revisiting this as a potential issue too, but then I’m not sure of the treatment if cortisol levels are out of whack?
Hi Josephineinamachine He did a Synacthen test, which shows if your adrenal glands can react if stimulated, but not how they preform normally during the day. Mine are able to perform.
He recommended a saliva test to check how they are performing during the day, but the one I bought wasn’t very good (I didn’t realise that when I bought it obviously 😂). I’ve since bought a new one, which was recommended on here. I’ve not taken it.
He also recommended Nutriadrenal supplements, which support your adrenal glands in functioning properly. Again, I’ve not tried them.
I believe that if your adrenal glands don’t function (Synacthen test), then you’ll be given steroids. but if they are just ‘lazy’ during the day then I don’t know? I might try those supplements or delgycerised liquorice (as recommended on here), to see if I can encourage my adrenals to make more when they are supposed to.
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