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Biohackers making open source insulin to reduce cost

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This may have been posted already so sorry if I missed it and I’m duplicating.

Slightly off topic in that this applies to insulin and diabetes but the principle is very interesting and I’m sure could be applied to T3/NDT.

The article explains in a bit more detail but the brief version in that biohackers are working to produce insulin to undercut big pharma. They’ll also make the formula open source so others can do the same.

Clearly more pertinent in the US where being an insulin dependent diabetic is incredibly expensive but wonderful to see people coming up to solutions where companies and governments have failed. Really like to think that this would be possible for T3 or NDT too.

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I suspect that T3 would be more straightforward than insulin.

Were I in any sense a business person, ideally with some understanding of the pharmaceutical industry, and a bank balance large enough, it would seem quite reasonable to launch a new T3 product in the UK.

If we ignore simply importing an existing product, I think there are two possible routes.

First, use contract manufacturing (such as Advanz/Mercury Pharma do for their levothyroxine and liothyronine).

Second, go down the own-label route. Maybe looking at someone like Ace in the Netherlands.

Both of which would have the potential to reduce cost considerably but avoid having to actually manufacture. (Setting up a pharmaceutical factory is expensive - anywhere.)

I'd also like to consider micro-tablets:

lundbeck.com/elaiapharm/en/...

If each micro-tablet contained 1 microgram (or less), you could readily produce capsules of any dosage. But without any changes to the composition between them.

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hjh88 in reply to helvella

I did wonder if it would be replicable in the UK with restrictions and costs around manufacture. But it’s encouraging that there are ways around it. I’d never heard of micro-tablets before!

Now where can we find a wealthy benefactor and a friendly chemist?

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to hjh88

It would obviously take people who know what they are doing in every direction. And distribution could be a particular difficulty as most of that is done by a small number of companies which deliver to large numbers of pharmacies. An operation no-one could hope to compete with.

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hjh88 in reply to helvella

I guess that’s how they protect their margins - an absolutely impenetrable process.

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dipsyqueen in reply to hjh88

Shame it made me think we should all get together and produce our own. better use of my garage that's for sure!

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