Can we start a lobby against the upcoming fluoridation of UK water please?
Last week saw yet another example of non joined up thinking by Johnson’s gov,. Hancock is now promising to introduce mass fluoridation. Why?
This pr stunt risks poisoning people with thyroid probs and for what? So the nation can indulge in eating Mars bars without cleaning their teeth?
Previous recent post with many comments discussing this issue here healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...
That is just England. No plans here for fluoride
Where are you Hibs1 ?
Edinburgh
There have been many petitions on the Government website for this in the past, but nobody signs them! Unless someone raises a new one and gets 10,000 signatures it won't go anywhere.
I know and now sadly with the nation swamped by worry about brexit and Covid, it’s the perfect time to bury bad news. There will be even less time to consider ‘minor’ things like water quality and hold the gov to account.
I am writing to Matt Hancock with some links as to why this is not a good thing.
I just came across this link :
Title : New proposals on water fluoridation offers fresh hope for nation’s oral health
smile-ohm.co.uk/2021/02/11/...
Quote :
The addition of fluoride to water has been researched for over 75 years, and water fluoridation has been proven to reduce decay by 35%.
It gives one reference for the above quote :
Title : Water fluoridation for the prevention of dental caries
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/260...
Authors' conclusions: There is very little contemporary evidence, meeting the review's inclusion criteria, that has evaluated the effectiveness of water fluoridation for the prevention of caries.The available data come predominantly from studies conducted prior to 1975, and indicate that water fluoridation is effective at reducing caries levels in both deciduous and permanent dentition in children. Our confidence in the size of the effect estimates is limited by the observational nature of the study designs, the high risk of bias within the studies and, importantly, the applicability of the evidence to current lifestyles. The decision to implement a water fluoridation programme relies upon an understanding of the population's oral health behaviour (e.g. use of fluoride toothpaste), the availability and uptake of other caries prevention strategies, their diet and consumption of tap water and the movement/migration of the population. There is insufficient evidence to determine whether water fluoridation results in a change in disparities in caries levels across SES [SES = Socioeconomic status]. We did not identify any evidence, meeting the review's inclusion criteria, to determine the effectiveness of water fluoridation for preventing caries in adults.There is insufficient information to determine the effect on caries levels of stopping water fluoridation programmes.There is a significant association between dental fluorosis (of aesthetic concern or all levels of dental fluorosis) and fluoride level. The evidence is limited due to high risk of bias within the studies and substantial between-study variation.
I remember meeting an overseas student once who had severe fluorosis. It looked hideous, but there was nothing that could be done about it. I thought it was ironic that fluoride had stained his teeth terribly and made it look as if he had rotten teeth.
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I forgot to say - the reference used by smile-ohm above doesn't actually support what they are suggesting i.e. that fluoridation is a wonderful thing. It amazes me how often people who use references do that i.e. they don't use references that support their position.
I just hope that this idea of adding fluoride to water supplies fizzles out ASAP. The USA has fluoridation in lots of cities :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water...
I find it strange that fluoridation should be considered in the UK since British children already have some of the best dental health in the world.
beckersdental.com/news-and-...
...Some of the best dental health in the world perhaps.But Hancock can make their teeth 35% better (that’s 35% less fillings). And all it takes is to poison the UK’s thyroid sufferers, what’s to think about!
Perhaps he could invest in some free tooth brushes, paste and regular hygienist visits and education in the importance of cleaning your teeth properly!
Perhaps we wouldn’t be having such dire health problems if we were all taught the importance of properly cleaned teeth. Altzheimers, dementia, plus many other illnesses such as heart disease, progress to be a whole lot worse because the bugs from the teeth get into the bloodstream.
Once there, they set off the immune system and inflammation starts. And we all know how bad inflammation can be don’t we.
It’s the reason why you have to get your teeth sorted before you have any heart surgery.
Fluoride is not going to save the nation from serious disease but simple good dental hygiene can. And best of all it won’t poison anybody in the process!
You know, presumably, that this started because fluoride is a by product of the steel industry that needed to be disposed of? Before that fluoride was listed as a poison!
I think the 35% reduction in decay - is actually a reduction in 35% of fillings of those with decay. That is a smaller number than at first appears. Not everyone requires fillings. In fact a piece I read said the reduction more refers to children who need fillings. So again it’s an even smaller number than at first appears. It’s not cutting the total number of all uk fillings by 35%
I became hypothyroid after living 20 years in Dublin. On investigation, there were three culprits for my rapid decline in health: genetic predisposition (most of my father's family had thyroid disease); Sellafield (a fire there a couple of months before I was born led to an explosion of thyroid disease in eastern Ireland, especially in the young and female) and fluoride in the water. Fluoride has been investigated extensively for its contribution to all kinds of health issues, which mostly start with its attack on the thyroid. Depressed as I am at our ability to persuade this govt to do anything sensible, while fluoride might 'solve' the problem of too few dentists and far too much sugar in the diet, our only recourse is to start saving up for a fluoride filtration system. Because the plastic bottles are also an endocrine disrupter, as well as a major pollutant.
I will definitely join you in a petition or lobby or something, it horrifies me the damage that can be done to forming teeth. I only drink bottle water, which is expensive, and was dismayed to read recently that it often is not natural water but contains fluoride.
Fluoride in Drinking Water
FlUORIDE in tap water cause THYROID PROBLEMS!
Fluoride in water supplies and maybe added to products
Toothpaste & bottled water 
Can someone explain why I should avoid fluoride please?
