Fluoride in water supplies and maybe added to products

[shaws]

We know we should avoid fluorid where possible. I have read these two articles today:-

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

tpa-uk.org.uk/fluoridation_...

These articles give you food for thought.

[PaulB]

We need to lobby on this.

I have personal experience of how much effect fluoride in water can have. Was really ill when working in part of California the added fluoride, I went massively hypo and ended up being taken to hospital as an emergency!

Be warned to drink bottled water when away from home.

This area of the USA doses highly during bush fires and storms, so levels can be higher than 1ppm

Paul

[Hidden]

I knew this for a while it's unbelievable isn't it? & the 'mouthwash' brainwash. Gotta get my household some non-fluoride toothpaste, even the grandkids' milk teeth toothpaste has loads in (but a warning not to swallow it).

wddty.com/toothpaste_1.html

Also amalgum fillings, aluminium in deodorants, shampoo chemicals etc. we are being poisoned with industry by-products! (ps gypsies used to use soot to brush their teeth).

[rosee]

Boots non-fluoride toothpaste is £1.52 a tube and they're 3 for 2.

[shaws Administrator]

I have just read in yesterday's The Independent that "Mr Justice Holman, sitting in London, rejected a legal challenge ..' that the decision-making process was "defective" '. The South Central Strategic Health Authority used statutory powers to instruct Southern Water ....to go ahead with fluoridation in Feb '09. Other local authorities had put proposed fluoridation schemes on hold pending the outcome of the case".

It would appear that we could now well have fluoride in all our drinking water as it is completely lawful (in order to protect our childrens' tooth decay?) and we have no say on whether we wish to drink/cook with it ! Our immune systems are already compromised and it looks like it will have even more to cope with.

[rosee]

I've just phoned southern water and been told they don't add to any of their water. However there is a case going on at the moment in Southampton as the local PCT is trying to have flouride added to the water there : (

[shaws Administrator]

I assume that the Case above was the test case. I add another part of the quote in the newspaper "A local health authority's plans for the fluoridation of a city's tap water was not unlawful, the High Court ruled yesterday".

[carolr]

As always one rule for some people and another when it suits them: It against the medinces act to administer treatment without consent. Except if they put you under section in the local mental hospital. where human rights do not apply. It always seems to be the government saying we need this to make our lives better while ignoring the facts. They are bound to have a friend somewhere who will make money out of the situation. I was told fluoride was a waste product from various industries if they can make money rather than throw it away by putting it in the water.

I lived in Derby in the 1970`s to 80`s the water was fluoridated at 1ppm sometimes it was flouridated at 1.2ppm with hydrofluoric acid. I don`t know if its true the fluoride used comes from other processes. But the potentual risk to health of that type of chemical being accedentally poured into the mains at fall strength let alone diluted. Is enough to know it can rote your bones and there`s nothing they can do for u. I can only akin it too when too much Aluminum compound was poured into a village in the South West and people are still suffering. With doctors not having a clue.

[hjh88 in reply to carolr]

Hi Carolr, I don’t suppose you know if the water around Derby is still fluoridated?

I ask because until recently I lived in a town just outside. All of my family have developed hypothyroidism amongst other autoimmune conditions and only since living near Derby!

[helvella Administrator in reply to hjh88]

A map...

dwi.gov.uk/consumers/advice...

... and a list of postcodes ...

wmaf.org.uk/userfiles/FLUOR...

Do check your specific water supply. Most (possibly all?) water suppliers have quite detailed water analyses available online. Some areas are high in fluoride naturally.

[hjh88 in reply to helvella]

Ah helvella thank you that’s very useful! Looks like I’ve managed to be fluoride free thus far. Must just be unlucky genetics!

[shaws Administrator in reply to hjh88]

As you have put a question within an 8 year post the person to whom you responded to may no longer be on the forum and you may wonder why you've not had a response from them. Always put up a new post if there's a long gap between the one you've inserted a question into

[hjh88 in reply to shaws]

Hi shaws, thanks for the heads up. I added to the thread as it came up near the top of the app. Should have looked closer but I presume someone must have redirected it with a comment if it showed up near the top? I’ll look more closely next time though thank you 😊

[alchemilla]

it makes my blood boil that the law is such an ass. if prisoners and burglars can sue over infringements of their human rights then I dont see why we cant. how dare they forcefully medicate people against their will.I think we should rise up and complain. people power is amazing as witnessed in recent events!

[TinainKent]

There was a peice on the 'One show' on BBc last week about the Southampton case. They showed a map of U.K and it owuld appear that the midlands along with the north east have the most Fluorinated water supplies. There were isolated dots across the country that also had fluoride added.

[Chippysue]

I live in the Midlands, wonder if there are more hypothyroid people in the Midlands? I have very sensitive teeth (since being hypo) and the only toothpaste that helps is the duraphat one from the dentist, one tooth gives me agony if I don't use it. It is really high in flouride. Also I drink a lot of decaf tea, I have read that us hypos shouldn't drink tea.

[Chippysue]

I have read about Derbyshire neck where several people had goitres

[carolr]

Yes some parts have been known for a long time to be effected by low thyroid for a long time Derbyshire Neck: Has been known to have a high insodence of thyroid defficency. Some parts of Derbyshire are naturally fluoridated up in the Peak District. While Derby its self is not it was only added for a period of 15 -20 years or so. Then its was removed after years of protest and people complained of various conditions. They could not make

out why natural fluoride was perhaps less harmful than when the chemical was added directly to the water when it was probably at a much higher concentration naturally. Yet it was only people in the Derby area that complained not the Peak District.. But originally the lack of iodine was thought to be caused by the trainan the hills allow the iodine to drain away.

Switzland is another country with a high insodence of thyroid disease.

[Hidden]

Midlands water - Severn Trent put flouride in c.45% of water supply - not where I am though - although there is lead & aluminium in it & they add chloramine (which also kills fish).

Yes my farmer brother told me that Derbyshire was Iodine deficient (well sheep anyway) land-locked county - a long way from the sea - (btw put Kelp on your veg like Jersey spuds).

[Chippysue in reply to Hidden]

kelp? this is one of those tricky subjects, info telling us with thyroid disease to avoid it

[carolr]

Lead usually removed by running the tap for a few mins. in the morning. As old house supply pipes are lead. Aluminum that`s put in the water to bleach it.. Its said to cause problems with alzimers.... But may be more due to other difficienties in the body allowing it to be displaced.

This also applies to inceased salt levels which are linked to the same type of difficienties. Its not the salt but lack of magnsium and calcium that increase the blood pressure. Both the salt and the aluminum is precipitiate. The scientists that saw this forgot basic chemical action and that it happens for other reasons other than eating excess amounts.