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Leeds CCG successful T3 prescribing?

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Hello all,

I have been using T3 self-funded (tiromel) for the past 3/4 years - I've had it noted on my doctor's record, but never prescribed through a doctor or seen an endo (I almost got there but my doctor at the time withdrew the referral). I currently take 100mcg levo and 8.3 t3 (third of a tiromel tablet) daily, and the difference that little bit of T3 made is phenomenal.

My sourced supply is starting to run low and with the pandemic/Brexit I'm not sure of my capability to source further (though I spot there are some PMs possible for sources so will try those) but I also thought now might be the time for getting an NHS prescription.

From the last time I looked at this at some point within the last year, I remember that Leeds CCG are very strict on their prescribing, and wondered if anyone here had had any success with it? The better armed with Knowledge I am before approaching my doctor, the better chance I have, I think!

Thank you in advance :)

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Here’s useful website

Shows 855 prescriptions for T3 in last year (that’s prescriptions, not patients)

openprescribing.net/analyse...

Before seeing any thyroid specialist endocrinologist get FULL Thyroid and vitamin testing done...privately if necessary

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask GP to test vitamin levels

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

If/when also on T3, make sure to take last third or quarter of daily dose 8-12 hours prior to test, even if this means adjusting time or splitting of dose day before test

In your case that’s likely to be half your daily dose.... just a speck of dust

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or thyroid antibodies or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

Thriva also offer just vitamin testing

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/

Also vitamin D available as separate test via MMH

Or alternative Vitamin D NHS postal kit

vitamindtest.org.uk

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Also liothyronine guidelines from Leeds CCG here

71633548c5390f9d8a76-11ea5e...

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queenmabroo in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you so much for the guidelines link, that will be really helpful even in just getting me past the gp and to secondary care.

Yes, I normally take my tests as you describe and usually use medichecks privately, I think my last one was about 9 months ago actually. Though my time perception may have been skewed this year. Thank you for the extra links for tests!

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louhop in reply toqueenmabroo

I’m from Leeds - if you pm me I will let you know my personal experience - I am prescribed T3 in the NHS

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diogenesRemembering in reply toSlowDragon

Looking at this advice, it doesn't seem as draconian in discussing T3 use as most such statements from other CCGs. If only there was a constant uniform position throughout the CCGs in the country. If T3's tablet price was as cheap as T4, I think it would be even more encouraging. I am covered by the Leeds CCG so nice to know they aren't total naysayers. I've met one of the doctors who had a few misconceptions but was willing to listen.

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TaraJR

SlowDragon added a link from the Leeds CCG website to RMOC Liothyronine prescribing guidance. That is not the final version of RMOC. It should be the final version 2.5 from July 2019. If Leeds are still using the November 2018 version, they are wrong!

Thyroid patient groups had input into the earlier version and the final version is a definite improvement.

Final: sps.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploa...

queenmabroo I'd advise you to download the July 2019 version and refer to relevant sections when talking to your doctor, endocrinologist or the CCG.

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Starsw

I am a little late on replying but I think if you could find a way to do a private test for DIO2 gene polymorphism (it is a genetic variant that stop people converting T4 into T3 properly) you can find this test online (it is a swab) and if you test positive for the variant then your GP may have to prescribe you T3 i may go a long way to convince the NHS hopefully.Take care

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