Multidosing and Iron supplements

[Jollypolly]

I find it pretty difficult to fit in iron supplements...ie Spatone....as I multi dose with my t3 only regime ....

Does anyone have any bright ideas ....or do you think Taking iron later in day matters,.

[Bugbear123]

Try single dosing it’s much easier

[Jollypolly in reply to Bugbear123]

Thanks I will ..go straight into it tomorrow then

[greygoose]

As long as iron is four hours away, either side, from thyroid hormone, it doesn't matter when you take it. But, it does also need to be two hours away from everything except vit C - including food.

[Jollypolly in reply to greygoose]

Well yes..I sis the problem when multidosing !

[greygoose in reply to Jollypolly]

I know. But, if you don't take it properly, no point in taking it at all. But, this is the question I was answering, there:

do you think Taking iron later in day matters,.

In a nutshell: no.

[Jollypolly in reply to greygoose]

Hi Again

No, I agree.. I should have made clear I was thinking of sleep and iron

I wonDered If anyone has found issues with taking iron later in day

For sleep , for taking near magnesium

Not to mention wine with evening meal ‘ !

[greygoose in reply to Jollypolly]

If you take your iron near magnesium or wine, there's not much point in taking it, because you won't absorb it very well. Which is probably not an issue you would feel at the time of taking it, but you would wonder, the next time you tested, why your level hadn't risen. Pretty certain that, in and of itself, it wouldn't have any effect on sleep.

[Jollypolly in reply to greygoose]

Thanks yes this is what I thought

Cos like most people I take magnesium in evenings

still I may find a window somewhere ..,

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to greygoose]

My doctor told me it was OK to take iron with food, esp if you tend to get a bad gut. In nature, you 'd be getting iron from food.

[greygoose in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Yup, but if you can, it's better not to take with food, because iron will bind with any calcium in it.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to greygoose]

Being vegan. most of my meals are not high calcium, I suppose, as most of the calcium in green probably gets cancelled out by oxalic acid.

[greygoose in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Possibly. But, I don't think I'd count on it.

[Koola in reply to greygoose]

Hello Greygoose,

From this I understand that I should get only a pure iron supplement. Many of them are multi, with folic acid, B12, and some capsules seem to be coated with magnesium serate (?) or such. Any brand you could recommend? Also, I’m over 60 and have read that I would only need 8mg daily. However I have feritin & iron deficiency (due to hypo.; but no anemia) So would 18mg be advisable? It’s often hard to get things shipped here and / or takes forever. Many brands others have recommended on this post are out of bounds. if I get a simple iron liquid with no additives, will it do? Thanks in advance for advice.

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[greygoose in reply to Koola]

I'm sorry, I cannot answer questions about iron, I just don't have the necessary knowledge. If I were you, I would post your own question so that many more people see it, rather than tagging it onto an old post that won't be read by many people, now.

[Koola in reply to greygoose]

Thank you, greygoose. will do

[pennyannie]

Hello Jollypolly

You might like to consider Asda frozen chicken livers.

The are very clean and come in small portions, ideal as a weekly supplement.

After defrosting I flash fry and whizz down into a pate, sometimes with a dollop of mayo and keep in fridge, taking a spoonful everyday to keep me ' topped up ' iron wise ' .

[Jollypolly in reply to pennyannie]

Thank you for this PA

Very helpful and literally

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

[Cooper27 in reply to pennyannie]

I have heard of people doing this and then freezing it in little pill sized portions, that they just swallow like vitamins straight from the freezer. It works if the thought of eating liver is off-putting. Probably would need a few "pills" per day.

[Jollypolly in reply to Cooper27]

Yes thanks

Funnily enough morning made my boy Snowy some liver well cooked for 🚞 ng treats and they were incredibly tasty !

Better than our light done liver which turned me right off this time ! So yes

A brilliant idea !

[Angel_of_the_North]

If you actually have a deficiency, Spatone is very expensive way of not getting enough. I didn't find that iron really interfered with T3 - but that's just going on symptoms, even when I was taking 3 ferrous fumarate a day and three doses of T3 only about an hour or two apart. But your mileage may vary.

[Jollypolly in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Hi A N

Replying to both your replies

Thanks

Firstly I get spa tone on NHS !

Very interesting you found it didn’t seem to affect t3

Secondly

Interesting indeed your doctors input and yes

Makes perfect sense

However

In respnse to

Bugbear i decides to try single dose of t3 at 5 am which would wonderfully free up the dayIf it suits .. I realise many find multi dosing better but everyone is different and I haven’t yet tried this approach with t3 so I’ll see how it goes

ANDVI DO LOVE MY VERY SMALL GLASS OF WINE EACH NIGHT AT SIX WITH MEAL!

Thanks for input it’s very helpful x

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Jollypolly]

Many people find a single dose of T3 works well for them. I messed around taking temperature before, between and after doses and found out that my temp rockets up to just over normal about an hour after a dose, and drops back to 36-ish after about 3 hours and 35-ish after 6 hours (depends on outside temp and what I eat), so I can't really cope with a big dose in one go. I always have iron problems - my ferritin never rises much, but my serum iron and transferrin saturation rise to over normal in a couple of months and no doctor seems to know what to do.