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So after reading the Hashimoto’s protocol book I basically concluded I had some level of adrenal fatigue. I’m now certain of it because of the improvements in mood, stress response, thinking and fat loss after implementing some advanced protocols.

However instead of doing the smart thing and having a adrenal hormone test to decide what level of dosing I required I decided to jump right in and wing it. I sort of regret this but then again I felt awful before and now I feel great so can’t complain.

The issue I’m facing is now I know adrenals where the issue I want to go back and do it right. I’m currently dosing prengnenalone 40mg (20 twice a day) and dhea 10mg (5mg twice a day). Do I go cold turkey and have a cortisol test or can I keep dosing the way I’m going?

On top of this I also take a adrenal correct supplement (bovine) and I believe this was a massive help also. Haven’t been taking this that long though but saw something about suppressing your adrenals by taking this and That did cause me some concern.

So I’m just looking for direction and advise really was anyone that’s experienced this,

Thank you in advance for any responses

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What is this adrenal correct supplement? Does it have a name? If it's just a glandular, I doubt it would suppress your adrenals.

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Ah sorry meant to put adrenal cortex

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greygoose in reply toSimba145

Adrenavive?

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Simba145 in reply togreygoose

Thorne adrenal cortex is what it say (bovine)

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OK. Well, I very much doubt that that will shut your adrenals down. What can shut them down is HydroCortisone, which should only be prescribed as a last resort.

But, it would be a good idea to get cortisol tested, now, see how well you're doing, see if you need to continue with the pregnenolone and DHEA.

Are you taking plenty of vit C and B vits to support your adrenals? (Best to test B12 and folate first before taking B vits) And, they need salt, so don't skimp on that. :)

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Simba145 in reply togreygoose

Yeah grey goose the amount of vitamins I take in the morning is silly really, I take a good multivitamin, selenium, zinc, magnesium, 4000mg of vitamin c and 2 bvitamin tablets as well, I do wonder if taking so money at once effects absorption? But I just think the morning is the best time for absorption altogether. I do not take folate tho. Salt ain’t a problem😂

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greygoose in reply toSimba145

When do you take your levo? Do you take it at night?

Actually, there's no such thing as a 'good multi-vitamin'. For several reasons:

* If your multi contains iron, it will block the absorption of all the vitamins - you won't absorb a single one! Iron should be taken at least two hours away from any other supplement except vit C, which is necessary to aid absorption of iron, and protect the stomach.

* If your multi also contains calcium, the iron and calcium will bind together and you won't be able to absorb either of them.

* Multi's often contain things you shouldn't take or don't need : calcium, iodine, copper. These things should be tested before supplementing.

* Multi's often contain the cheapest, least absorbable form of the supplement : magnesium oxide, instead of magnesium citrate or one of the other good forms; cyanocobalamin instead of methylcobalamin; folic acid instead of methylfolate; etc. etc. etc.

* Multi's do not contain enough of anything to help a true deficiency, even if you could absorb them.

* When taking several supplements, you should start them individually at two weekly intervals, not all at once as you would with a multi. Because, if you start them all at once, and something doesn't agree with you, you won't know which one it is and you'll be back to square one.

With a multivitamin, you are just throwing your money down the drain, at best, and doing actual harm at worst. Far better to get tested for vit D, vit B12, folate and ferritin, and build up your supplementation program based on the results. A vitamin or a mineral is only going to help you if you need it, anyway. More of something you don’t need is either pointless or even dangerous, as with calcium, iron or vit D.

It's always said on here that it's best to take vitamins in the morning, and minerals at night. Especially magnesium is better at night because it can make you drowsy. And, that amount of vit C would probably be better absorbed if it were spread out through the day, rather than taken all at once.

If you're taking two B complex tablets, you'll be getting enough folate, so you don't need to add more. But, be careful you're not getting too much B6. :)

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Simba145 in reply togreygoose

Thank you grey goose I didn’t know that about my multivitamin, it’s a Costco one but I’ll check it for iron and if so I won’t take it alongside my other supplements but don’t want to give it up completely because you never know.

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Also check for copper, iodine and calcium. And which forms of magnesium and B vits they put in it. It's not just the iron you have to worry about. Being an 'own brand' multi, it's more than likely cheap and nasty, no matter what you pay for it.

Plus, as I said, be careful you're not getting too much B6. There's bound to be B6 in a multi and you're taking B complex.

Where multi's are concerned, I think we do know! They're a total waste of money.

You didn't say when you take your thyroid hormone. Because iron, calcium, vit D, magnesium all must be taken four hours away from thyroid hormone. The other two hours away.

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Simba145 in reply togreygoose

Ah so I take my levo soon as I wake up and then sleep for another hour usually😂 yeah it contains all of them actually, don’t think I’ll have to many bvits in me yet since I started with the b’s quite recently. I did not know it needed to be 4 hours I will not take vitamin d in the morning now or my multivitamin. I deffinitely have sibo so I don’t know if that effects my vitamin absorption either.

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greygoose in reply toSimba145

Well, my advice is you shouldn't be taking the multi-vit at all. It's a very bad idea and a waste of money.

But, if you're going to take it anyway, you should at least get copper, calcium and iodine tested to make sure you're not over-dosing.

Hypos usually have high copper. You don't want to add any more.

It's rare to need calcium supplements in the west and excess calcium is dangerous. Taking vit D increases your absorption of vit D, anyway.

And excess iodine can cause all sorts of problems - did you know that you get 68 mcg iodine from every 100 mcg levo? It's very easy to over-dose.

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Simba145 in reply togreygoose

Didn’t know any of that tbh grey goose, I think if you wrote a book on all the hypo tips and tricks I’d read it so if you have a list of advise saved in your notes feel free to send it

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No notes, all in my head! lol Not much chance of me writing a book on the subject, though. Sorry. :)

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