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Hi

I had a blood test back in December for a under active thyroid and have had to wait until now to have a follow up blood test . Which is posted above, my TSH level has risen from 5.56miu/l

And T4 was 11.3 in December. I have already posted my results from December on a earlier post .

The new results say borderline, I go to see my dr on Monday, now I don’t know what to expect from him, I have a lot of symptoms but will he wait until my TSH rises or should I push for medication.please could you advise if I should be on medication now, I really don’t feel well .

Thank you

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fuchsia-pink

I wouldn't feel well with TSH that high and T4 struggling along the bottom of the range. When you see the GP, I suggest you emphasise all the symptoms you have which indicate you need medication - and read up on hypothyroidism. At some point quite soon it would be a good idea to have a full range of blood tests done - including free T3, thyroid antibodies, and key nutrients folate, ferritin vit D and B12 - so that you can understand more fully where you are now - and where you need to get to. Good luck!

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Norrahsjake in reply tofuchsia-pink

Thanks for your reply, I had a full range of blood tests in December and they wasn’t brilliant, low vitamin D and folate, if the dr won’t do anything on Monday , il will try seeing another dr at the practice. I have read up on hypothyroidism and will have to go else where for medication if my dr won’t prescribe any on Monday.thank you for taking the time to reply x I feel like I’m banging my head against a brick wall, I know I need something but the dr doesn’t seem to want to give me anything.

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fuchsia-pink in reply toNorrahsjake

If you can, take a man with you to the GP ... for some weird reason the docs often take us more seriously then, and prescribe what we need rather than fob us off. Good luck x

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Knackeredoldhag in reply tofuchsia-pink

This is so true! How sad that it is..😩

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McMurtagh in reply tofuchsia-pink

Take a man?!!!

Wouldn’t an assertive friend/partner of any sex be just as useful?

in reply toMcMurtagh

True, but in spite of political correctness it is a fact that, on average, men tend to be more assertive than women. But there are plenty of exceptions.

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SeasideSusieRemembering

Norrahsjake

Yes, you should be on thyroid hormone replacement and in some other countries you would be once your TSH reaches 3; however, in the UK doctors are sadists and like to make us wait until TSH goes over 10.

You could tick off your symptoms from the list on ThyroidUK here:

thyroiduk.org/tuk/about_the...

show your GP and point out your rising TSH which has been over range twice, and your falling FT4 which is very close to the bottom of the range, and ask for a trial of Levothyroxine. No guarantee that this will work, but worth a try. If a trial is refused, maybe ask your GP "If you had all these symptoms and these results, felt as ill as I do and it affected your life to the extent that ….. (fill in the blanks - can no longer work, sleep XX number of hours a day, have no social life, marriage is affected, etc...) what would you do?"

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Norrahsjake

Hi, thanks for replying, I have already got along list of my symptoms, the newest in my throat , I’m ready to tell the doctor them all over again. Thanks for your advice , I will definitely give it ago on Monday, it’s so frustrating, I feel like he doesn’t listen, I will go and see a different doctor, if I get no joy .

Thank you

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toNorrahsjake

If you print off the list from ThyroidUK and present your symptoms on there, you can say you have got your information from the charity ThyroidUK which the NHS website links to for further information, it might be taken more seriously than if you just present your own list, back it up with something "official".

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

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SlowDragonAdministrator

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask/insist GP to test vitamin levels and thyroid antibodies

You may need to get full Thyroid testing privately as NHS refuses to test TG antibodies if TPO antibodies are negative

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

For thyroid including antibodies and vitamins

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3 £29 (via NHS private service )

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all primary hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's.

Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten.

So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...

Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

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JAmanda

Yes doc should give levo if over tsh normal range plus symptoms. But often don’t. Ask for an trial’ to see if it will make you feel better and stress it’s affecting your ability to work, maintain relationships etc They need to be heavily encouraged to deviate from strict guidelines sometimes but will do so if they think you’re really suffering. Exasperating! Good luck.

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Norrahsjake in reply toJAmanda

Thanks, I will ask for a trail , it’s so frustrating xx

in reply toNorrahsjake

I was going to say that too. Ask for a "Clinical trial", sounds more knowledgeable and professional! He might even begin to think you a "Mere patient" do have some idea what you are talking about!

You could point out that because it's a trial you can't blame him if it doesn't work.

Be warned though, sometimes - for several reasons -starting thyroxine makes you feel worse, at least at first.

But that does NOT mean you don't need it. Persevere, don't panic but insist on getting the help you need.

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Norrahsjake in reply to

Thanks for the good advice, I will do that when I see him, I’m determined I’m not leaving without something being done for me.

in reply toNorrahsjake

If you still can't get anywhere find another doctor or write to the Practice Manager politely setting out the facts

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Wetsuiter

Take the recent NICE guidelines with you. They only came out before Christmas and GP may not even be aware.

i believe Section 1.5.4 would apply to you

nice.org.uk/guidance/ng145/...

1.5.4Consider a 6-month trial of levothyroxine for adults under 65 with subclinical hypothyroidism who have:

a TSH above the reference range but lower than 10 mlU/litre on 2 separate occasions 3 months apart, and

If symptoms do not improve after starting levothyroxine, re-measure TSH and if the level remains raised, adjust the dose.

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Norrahsjake in reply toWetsuiter

Thats great, very interesting , thank you .

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