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The Effect of Daily versus Weekly Levothyroxine Replacement - My Critique

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The paper below seems to be being quoted as support for once weekly dosing with levothyroxine.

The Effect of Daily versus Weekly Levothyroxine Replacement on Thyroid Function Test in Hypothyroid Patients at a Tertiary Care Centre in Haryana

Rajesh Rajput* and Vaibhav Pathak

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

I am very much NOT convinced. The following explains at least some of the reasons I think it is unacceptable as support for once weekly dosing. It certainly does not adhere to the full claims of evidence based medicine, and does not, in my view, constitute even a properly conducted trial.

The trial was performed on only 100 patients.

Far too small a cohort.

Other than being hypothyroid, taking levothyroxine and not being pregnant, post-partum or having a co-morbid disease, there is no consideration of other possibly important issues. Such as some of the cohort being athyreotic, or B12 deficient, or iron deficient, or their gender.

The trial period was twelve weeks – two six-week periods.

Given that six weeks is often quoted as the time required for blood test results to stabilise after even a small change in dose, what evidence is there that six weeks is adequate after a gross change?

The TSH reported was 2.8 (daily) and 3.9 (weekly). In the opinions of many, both of those are too high.

The conclusion claims it is reasonable “especially for those who have issues with compliance”. But there is nothing about change in compliance in the rest of the abstract. And, if compliance did change in the trial, or does change in real world use of once weekly dosing, that is an extremely important factor.

“When higher-than-usual doses are needed to maintain TSH in the normal range, clinicians need to find out the reason behind it.”

Whilst I agree that it would be desirable for patients and doctors to know why, does it make any real difference if you need 2, or 2.5 or 3 micrograms of levothyroxine per kilogram? Even in cases where the reason is known (e.g. gastroparesis), what is to be done is the more important question.

“One of the most common reasons for poor response to therapy is non-compliance. Non-compliance in hypothyroid patients is due to the need to take the drug daily on an empty stomach. After taking the drug, patients have to wait at least 30 min until they can have a meal, including tea or coffee, to ensure proper absorption of the drug. The need to take the medication on a daily basis in the fasting state, to avoid other medications hampering absorption for the next 3–4 h, interferes with the daily routine of the patient and will result in poor compliance which causes poor disease control.”

Conflates issues of absorption, interference from food and drink, with issues of compliance.

The paper reports that twice-weekly, alternate-day and weekly therapy have all been tried. But completely ignores another potentially viable approach, bed-time dosing.

“Since the elimination half-life of LT4 is about 7 days, and its biological effect may last longer, giving it once weekly seems a logical alternative.”

This completely misunderstands the situation. If you take, say, paracetamol (half-life sometimes said to be 4 hours), the blood level rises from nothing to a peak very quickly, then to half that peak in four hours.

But with levothyroxine, there is already a significant amount of T4 present in a healthy or properly-dosed person. Much of which is bound. So the effect of a large extra dose of levothyroxine is very different. First, FT4 will rise, possibly dramatically. Then TT4 will rise, but only as far as it can given the amount of binding protein available. In time, they will drop - not to the start point (with paracetamol it was, of course, zero), but to less than the start point. Effectively negative.

“Also, LT4 is a prohormone which is converted in the body tissues into metabolically active TT3 by the local deiodinase enzyme.”

No, LT4 is NOT converted into TT3. It is converted into T3 – some of which might then, possibly, get released back into the bloodstream and get bound as TT3.

I suspect that the very important T4 to T3 conversion by the thyroid itself has simply been ignored. It isn’t mentioned.

“Also, weekly dosing may not only improve compliance in patients but could also be advantageous to nurses or other caregivers taking care of patients who are unable to dose themselves.”

The ethics of promoting advantages to anyone other than the patient are questionable. (I’d accept the possibility that making something easier to dose properly might result in a benefit to a patient but that is not what is claimed.)

“At baseline (day 0), patients in group I were advised to continue with their daily LT4, while patients in group II were given 7 times the daily dose once every week.”

Changing to a weekly dose in patients who are claimed to be euthyroid on stable doses could be dramatically different to what happens to patients who have been non-compliant (or for any other reason are low in thyroid hormones).

There is no evidence that a 7 times dose will be absorbed to even a similar percentage as daily doses.

“Table 1. Baseline characteristics of study groups I and II”

These tests use Total T4 and Total T4.

“A total of 5 patients (3 in group I and 2 in group II) were lost to follow-up.”

That is 5% of the sample. Of course, losses to follow up are common, but if they were lost because they were unhappy with the regime, that would make a huge difference to the possible conclusions.

The end of 6 and end of 12 week tests give absolutely no information about what the biochemical state was on any of the other 82 days covered by the test period.

With daily dosing the highest level of T3 is usually observed about two days after a dose of T4, there could be a massive overdose of T3 at that point or somewhere in the periods between tests. Assuming local conversion entirely compensates would be equivalent to claiming that an overdose of T4 is impossible.

“The weekly administration of T4 may cause hyperthyroidism-like symptoms and signs during the initial few days of therapy and in the long term can have a detrimental effect on the heart, muscles, and bone. In the present study, we assessed the patients clinically for signs and symptoms of hyperthyroidism using the HSS score and found that it was not suggestive of hyperthyroidism during the entire study period in both groups. However, we did not assess 24-h electrocardiogram monitoring, echocardiography, as well as bone and muscle parameter measurements which need to be assessed in future studies. The available literature suggests that weekly LT4 is safe from a cardiac point of view; however, due to the small number of patients and short follow-up in those studies, firm safety data for weekly therapy have not been established.”

In other words, we didn’t check, and we don’t know. It might or might not be safe. Which, in my opinion, undermines this study as supporting any future treatment by weekly dosing.

From my own point of view, we should consider what happens in a healthy person. Thyroid hormone is released in tiny pulses under the control of an extremely complicated mechanism. Daily levothyroxine dosing is already too far away from that state. I would very much like to see research into near-continuous dosing. Not moving treatment dramatically further away from the healthy state.

Added:

Don't be shy about pointing out any mistakes I have made, or issues I have missed. Without a doubt, more eyes see more. :-)

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mitziboo01

This might interest you..."grist to the mill"

Thank you helvella

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toDippyDame

Having gone through that document for some time, I completely failed to remember to call out to mitziboo01 - whose post was, fairly obviously, one of the triggers behind my critique. :-)

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DippyDame in reply tohelvella

Your ability to keep us all on track is impressive....I can forget why I entered a room!

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greygoose

I think that a lot of non-compliance is caused by doctors not explaining the importance of taking levo daily, and what is likely to happen if they don't. I've read on here of people never even seeing a doctor for diagnosis, just a phone call from a receptionist to pick up a prescription with not discussion of what, why, where or when. How is the patient supposed to know what it's all about?

Also, when were the blood tests done at the end of the six week and twelve week periods? On the day the dose was taken? Or at the end of the week? There would be a vast difference, but which one are they claiming was euthyroid?

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helvellaAdministrator in reply togreygoose

Agreed. Times two.

in reply togreygoose

"How is the patient supposed to know what it's all about? "

Ask? :-D

Sometimes nosiness comes in handy. Sometimes it just annoys people. When I was in school I used to like to sit at the front and ask questions. The teachers either loved or hated me!

Not much has changed, except not being in school any more and being a lot older. And having this flippin thyroid problem!

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But who do you ask when you haven't actually seen a doctor?

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greygoose in reply to

If you read the sentence just before that, I said that some patients first know they are hypo when they receive a phone call from the receptionist telling them to pick up their prescription. Not much point asking a receptionist to explain Hashi's!

Come to that, how many doctor can explain Hashi's? I've never met one that actually knew what it was. One doctor gave me a lengthy 'explanation' - with diagrams - of how the Hashi's antibodies formed a hard crust around the thyroid so that the hormone couldn't get out!!! They just make it up as they go along. So, not much point asking if you want a true, logical, scientific account, you're better off with Google!

Also, if you don't know anything about it, how do you know what questions to ask? We're always getting posts on here saying 'I have an endo appointment next week, what questions should I be asking?' If you don't know, you don't know, and finding the right questions is half the battle. It should not be like that.

in reply togreygoose

My comment about asking was very tongue in cheek. As you say, a lot of the problem is not being told. Another is when you don't know what to ask, even if you understand the answer.

"One doctor gave me a lengthy 'explanation' - with diagrams - of how the Hashi's antibodies formed a hard crust around the thyroid so that the hormone couldn't get out!!! They just make it up as they go along."

That is utterly crackers. During med school he must have been asleep during lectures on the immune system. But even so he could have made up something better than that!

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greygoose in reply to

I cannot imagine where he got that idea from. It's really weird. But, he was really weird. The majority of doctors I've seen - and I've seen a lot of doctors! - were really weird. Maybe you have to be weird to be a doctor. But, I wonder if this is taught in med school, that when you don't know, you just make something up - they all do it! I've heard some very weird and wonderful things in my time!

in reply togreygoose

It seems he didn't even know that the thyroid is an endocrine gland, releasing its hormone directly into the blood. So any "Hard crust" preventing the hormone getting out would cut off the blood supply as well!

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He knew nothing! Well, not about thyroid, anyway.

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Many doctors refer to the thyroid gland as being both small and, at the same time, the largest endocrine gland.

Completely missing the pachyderm (OK, elephant) in the room:

The skin as an endocrine organ

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

in reply tohelvella

WOW! Didn't know that!

Pachyderm - good pun. Love it! Wonder how much an elephant's skin weighs.

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RobinAnn

Interesting to see your info. My husband, while on business in India, who ended up at the doc for a bladder infection, was convinced to switch to a weekly T4 med. He's not due home for another week but I'll be interested to see how it works for him. Unlike the struggles of so many on this forum, he's the type that just takes his t4 without any issues. But in any case I doubt the doctors here in Germany will be very useful or supportive if he wants to stay on the weekly T4. But maybe my husband will prefer daily- time will tell. It's not even available in Europe yet though is it?

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toRobinAnn

Surely, if you have the tablets, it is available anywhere? Or am I missing something?

It has been discussed in the context of district nurses in the UK visiting older folk in their homes. If they only visit once a week, they have been known to get the person to take their whole week dose in one.

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RobinAnn

Wait are we taking about weekly slow release thyroid t4, which is what my husband is trying. Or giving daily t4 as a weekly dose?

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toRobinAnn

No. Common or garden ordinary levothyroxine tablets.

Just taking what would ordinarily be all seven doses in one go.

There has been relatively little work done on slow release for levothyroxine because it is usually regarded as slow in effect anyway.

I'd like to know more. I can't see how any oral medicine could deliver for seven days?

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RobinAnn in reply tohelvella

Ok. Then I jumped in on the wrong conversation. And I'm utterly dumbfounded that anyone would give daily t4 all at once, once a week.

My hubby is taking t4 specifically for weekly dosing. Based on your comment I'm even more curious to see if he likes it. They gave him a large supply. Maybe he's a guinea pig.;-)

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toRobinAnn

Please tell us more when you can - probably best to write a new post? :-)

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RobinAnn in reply tohelvella

Will do. Give me a week until he returns. And I'll update everyone.

"“One of the most common reasons for poor response to therapy is non-compliance. "

That's right, blame the patient!

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My only non-compliance, in the sense of not taking as much as I need, was when the old formulation Teva didn't deliver what it claimed!

Yes, even if they don't mean to blame the patient, they are utterly unable to avoid writing words that strongly imply blame.

Yes, they seem to think we are like naughty children who won't "Eat their greens", or doddery old nincompoops who keep forgetting! GRRRRR :-(

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penny

I skimmed your post, sorry, helvella, but think I am correct in saying that all the ‘scientific’ reports I read they judge the well-being of the patient by tsh alone; there is never any mention of asking how the patient feels. If the tsh is ‘in range’ then the patient is well.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply topenny

They did use a survey-type assessment.

But I am very secptical.

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diogenesRemembering

Also of course, we have to consider some more things. First, giving a week's worth of T4 in one go does not mean it is then gratefully taken in by the body and stored until needed, maintaining a constant FT4/FT3 level. What will happen is that a lot of it will be converted to rT3, the excess T4 being seen as toxic, and rapidly eliminated from the body in the urine or further degraded to T2 etc. The detoxifying T4-sulphate and glucuronide will help in this process by kidney elimination. What will happen is that quite rapidly within a day the T4/FT4 load will revert back to a much lower level from which it will decay further to 50% of the "1 day after" remaining load in 1 week. This means that the T4 supply will vary between gross oversupply and insufficiency. There is no control here and the dosing will affect T4-T3 conversion also - nothing like a steady state that the normal thyroid produces, and worse than daily T4 produces. Given the body's resilience the effects might not be seen over a short time, but over a long time the downside will show itself.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply todiogenes

Makes me wonder what impact weekly dosing might have in someone with existing kidney issues? If they are not working optimally, the elimination might not happen as assumed.

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diogenesRemembering in reply tohelvella

If it can't be got rid off urinally, it will be eliminated faecally.

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