Does anyone have any good experiences with a doctor that can look at the "whole picture" . I have issues with Thyroid, Adrenal Fatigue and Oestrogen Dominance. I am in the Surrey/Sussex/Berkshire/Hampshire area but willing to travel further if needed. Pretty desperate here, I couldn't pick up my 2 year old today 
If you have a doc you would recommend please do PM me as per forum rules we can't put any full names in posts. Many thanks!!! R xx
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Rhsana,
Have you considered your diet? I say this because somebody posted a few links from Tom Brimeyer a few days ago and a lot of explains why I feel so crap at times.
He recommends salted orange juice for example to help the adrenals and help the liver store glycogen which is needed for T4-T3 conversion, energy and oestrogen detoxification. It’s a vicious circle because the thyroid affects the liver but then the liver affects the thyroid.
He also recommends a carrot salad consisting of grated carrot, coconut oil, sea salt and apple cider vinegar which in combination helps oestrogen detoxification.
forefronthealth.com/how-to-...
There’s a free three food protocol and diet plan that $7.
I have tried a bunch of different diets but I am always willing to try something else too! Thanks for this it looks really helpful! <3 xx
So far the diets that I have tried to minimal results are;
Paleo
Keto
Candida
Microbiome
They all do seem to help in the initial stages but then I have a flare up and I feel like I am back to square 1!
Rhsana,
It’s not so much a “diet” but more about why you should eat certain foods and eat at certain times to support your liver and thyroid physiology. Especially if you feel tired and hypothyroid despite having good blood results.
I’ve started the salted orange juice and I love it . I’ve been avoiding fruit juices especially orange juice for years preferring to eat the whole fruit but I’m willing to give it a go. Clearly avoiding fruit juice and even natural sugars hasn’t helped me.
Also, Dr Lara Briden’s book the Period Repair Manual has massively increased my understanding and it has helped too.
Yes! Iv'e started it thank you!!! I do like the idea of the salted orange juice and the carrot salad so it shouldn't be too much of a hardship 
xx
It's not the orange juice itself that is important, it's the vitamin C. You could just as easily take salt in water with a vit C tablet. But, without the sugar, it would be pretty unpalatable!
greygoose,
That’s what I thought because I was thinking in terms of the Root Cause Protocol by Morley Robbins for one thing. However, Tom Brimeyer states in one of his videos that you get access to as part of the plan that the fruit juice contains fructose and this is what helps with glycogen reserves in the liver. Hypothyroid patients are low on these reserves which are needed to convert T4 to T3 and get this into our cells and that’s why the adrenals kick in and release adrenaline to compensate for this which makes us feel wired and tired. This further suppresses the thyroid. He says it’s glucose that is the culprit and it’s the body’s inability to get that into our cells when it comes to the risk of diabetes and not fructose especially when it’s from a food/fruit source. He also says that hypothyroid patients are prone to low blood sugar.
So there you have it.
More on this post too: forefronthealth.com/how-to-...
Oh well… You live and learn. 
greygoose,
I feel I am constantly learning not sure how much living I’m doing 😂
The problem with hypothyroidism is that there’s too many variables and it gets worse with age. However, I’m not giving up ever.
Well, the alternative isn't very attractive, is it. I learn something new just about every day, I think. But, at the same time, I forget something every day. And, I have to constantly remind myself of things I already knew. It's hard work! lol
Not sure how much living I'm capable of, at the moment. But, I'm doing my best.
greygoose,
Totally agree. Tom Brimeyer’s videos are really insightful. I’ve watched hours of summits, read countless blogs and books, watched loads of videos and used so many forums but some of the things he talks about I’ve not come across before.
I know cold hands and feet are a hypothyroid symptom but Tom states that the body does this to protect our organs, taking blood away from our extremities and channelling it towards our organs because if they aren’t aren’t at the right temperate they would fail. Quite scary when you think about it!
I’ll see if I can create a separate post on what he’s said for everyone to review.
he has a big money making scheme, you can heal without paying him. Our bodies are designed to heal on their own.
cjw6343,
Yes our bodies are designed to heal themselves but often we need to intervene and help the process. If we did absolutely nothing we’d die.
US practitioners invest a lot of money in marketing and advertising as that is the way they attract clients. Its a competitive business. It’s not the same as the British healthcare system. Yes you can heal using lots of free information and I’ve helped myself in that way too. However, I’ve made the greatest progress by working with a functional medicine professional here in the UK. Not everyone can improve by just using information available for free.
I was healed by listening to a Dr on youtube, the cost....zero!
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Which YouTube channel is that's okay to ask?
They all want to sell, sell, sell - I’ve bought the books but I don’t buy the supplements from Amy Myers MD - but she’s changed my life for the better after 25 years thyroid -
Thanks
Although I'm confused, again, As I never have cold extremities, I find this odd. It's not the norm I said it.
'Is it.?
Jeppy,
I have cold extremities but then there are people who yes don’t have this problem. We’re all different.
Thanks
Well after reading up Tom I'm inclined to slowely come off levo and really work on diet fastidiously
Il try diet and reduce slowly
Il,get my bloods done first
I've not gotten better and I can't up dose without being a couch potato, like we say, we are all different
If this is a flop and I need meds il go ndt route probably
Jeppy,
Why on earth would you take yourself off medication? Unless you’re swapping over to NDT etc. Most people cannot do that. You’ll run a massive risk of regressing. Unfortunately diet alone cannot cure thyroid issues for most people. Please consider the risks of doing this first.
Thnx yes well it's tiresome now as I've worked on adrenals and gut and cannot up levo as I'm a couch potatoes I feel so ill
I don't know which piece of jigsaw I need as too much information
My t four isn't low naturally in fact my tsh t four and t three have hardly changed with taking levo and vits
Maybe it's ok to be tsh four really
I'm uncomfident to take t three my gut says it isn't the way
I'm now on bioidentical hormones which has brought some energy, Prof Studd thinks my adrenals are fine and says saliva tests are crackpot and unhelpful, maybe just maybe he is right
Too much info
Il stick on seventyfive
Number lock is jammed,,,
I like his blog. He explains things clearly. I finally made connection between liver thyroid and my low blood sugar and high cortisol. Had it my whole life but didn't know. I'm also using his bio identical progesterone at the moment (had blood test). He is probably not right in everything but he helps in putting the whole picture together. He is heavily influenced by Ray Peat if you want to know where his salted orange juice theory came from: )
KT77,
Yes I’ve noticed he talks about Ray Peat too. I’m drawn to him because a lot of what he says resonates with me. I’m certain my liver isn’t working as well as it should and I’m definitely stressed. I’m enjoying the orange juice with salt.
Clearly not everything works for everyone . Early days yet but let’s see.
Me too. Re liver
Confused again
It appears by Tom we do need fruits
Then why are we are being told that two fruits a day are allowed,
And over that it is too much sugar
....quite frankly when I was well I was called a donkey even as I ate lots of fruit, maybe my body knew best for me?
A cynic will say this is what caused unwellness lol
Really interesting Iv avouded fruit juice because of the sugar for years also iv eliminated salt pretty much all my life! You get indoctrinated
So is it sea salt? Himalayan? Whats so special
Jeppy,
Yes me too I’ve been so religious about avoiding fruit juice. I do love salt and it’s very important for the adrenal glands.
Yes, so it’s freshly squeezed non pasteurised orange juice with sea salt.
Table salt tends to be more heavily processed to eliminate minerals, usually contains an additive to prevent clumping, and often has added iodine, so for the latter reason in particular, is not a good idea in association with hypothyroidism.
Thanks
Don't see why it has to be orange juice, I'm unsure what to buy as they all see, to have sugars
The iodine is something that is confusing and thinking of buying test as doc won't test it, as surely we need 'enough' iodine, Not to confuse with over doing it -
Maybe just buy oranges and juice them? xx
I don't see why it hasn't to be oranges of its salt and Vit c theory
Jeppy,
It’s the combination of fructose and salt. He doesn’t even talk about Vitamin C. That is what will build your glycogen stores and help your adrenals. If you read this full thread I’ve explained why the liver needs fructose to create glycogen according to Tom B up above.
Look I’m not saying you must do this. I’m just telling everyone what I’ve discovered. It’s really up to you. If you google salted orange juice you’ll find more information I’m sure.
weedemandreap.com/foods-boo...
Or why not download the FREE 3 ingredient thyroid protocol from his website?
Thanks. It's great. I put on apple earlier and is weirdly good, I did t have oranges. I expect the liquid does a better job
Exciting theory for sure
Il reread. Unsure where to get glycerin
Jeppy,
Glycerine? I’m talking about how consuming fructose helps generate glycogen stores in the liver. Essential for T4 to T3 conversion.
Quite excited!!! I've avoided juices and sugar and salt like the plague, hope blood sugar doesn't go up but shouldn't do should it
And saying to have after seven pm,,
Jeppy,
Blood sugar concerns relate to glucose not fructose according to Tom B. Plus he says diabetes is an inability to get glucose into our cells and that’s why blood sugar rises. It’s a physiological defect.
...sorry I meant gelatine, il find it
Jeppy,
Amazon have lots of different brands.
👍 let me know how you go pls. I love orange juice it been deprivation, I can't be bothered to squeeze il pay out for the j sweetened or doesn't it matter
Jeppy,
Yes you too, I’m not squeezing it myself buying the already squeezed version from Tesco and drinking it in the morning, all the best
Thanks. It still,stands we need to keep sugar down as it's inflammation based is t it, it causes inflammation in arteries and the liver sends along the cholesterol to repair the damage
Hi
I see you write about eastrogen dominance.
I found Dr John Lee's books invaluable.
He has a few books, the first I read was " What your Doctor may not tell you about pre menopause.
There are others named " What your Doctor may not tell you about menopause "
What your Doctor may not tell you about Breast Cancer.
Really invaluable for any woman whatever age because we don't have to be pre or menopausal to experience a decline in progesterone; hence eastrogen dominance.
After reading the book "What your Doctor may not tell you about pre menopause , I thought I would be crazy not to suppliment with natural progesterone cream by Wellsprings in Jersey. ( not progestins prescribed by g.p's disguised with names like progestogen to give the impression that it is progesterone.
I hope this helps you.
I believe Rhsana and many of us here have realised that Dr Lee’s liberal approach to progesterone cream use has proven to add further complications rather than solve the initial problem. My opinion at least.
Hello
In what way do you mean problems?
If you read Rhsana’s previous post you’ll see. Using progesterone cream over long periods of time and not testing hormone levels can cause side effects. It can also build up and it’s very to use more than the body needs. It’s also very easy to over look testing when adopting a DIY approach.
Hormones work together as a symphony, taking progesterone affects so many other hormones.
Yes, I understand. I find it helpful, each of us are different, my swollen breasts reduced when I started using the cream.
Hi Lavender - Blue,
Thank you, yes I did read that book a few years ago and did indeed try out wellsprings along with one from the London Specialist Pharmacy. I was dealing with a whole host of problems at the time so I cannot honestly say whether it helped or made it worse, but I have read accounts for and against. I am so pleased that it worked out for you. I am considering it again, I am at a total loss at the moment but I don't want to be hasty and make anything worse. I finished breast feeding 18 months ago and I am still producing milk, so know my hormones are out of whack I just really need someone who is more knowledgable than myself to oversea my healing process if that makes sense? R xx
Trying to find someone with self agency and autonomy in our NHS system that only follows NICE guidelines is difficult.
This is why we end up self medicating.
Hope you do find someone who will be your agent. X
and there in lies the rub ;p. Thank you, If I do, I shall be sure to PM you. xx
Lavender-Blue,
Yes breast tenderness is definitely a sign of oestrogen dominance but Dr Lara Briden although recommends progesterone cream in some instances says the way to approach this is ensuring proper detoxification of metabolised oestrogens, gut health, lifestyle and dietary changes like balancing blood sugar to regulate ovulation in the first place. Avoiding xenoestrogens.
Absolutely avoiding xeno eastrogens.
Go natural wherever possible. X
Except breast tenderness also occurs with too much progesterone. Painful nipples and centre area of breast is oestrogen. Pain ad soreness around the base of the breast is progesterone. Swollen breasts is oestrogen. It's never so simple as one answer.
Rhsana,
Sorry I seem to have hijacked your thread 😂
Haha! Hijack away, I'm learning something new with each post!
Rhsana,
I am too but I wish I could find a real solution that works! Problem with hypothyroidism is that there’s so many variables.
How do you pm
You can PM any member by clicking on their profile - then it will give you an option to send them a message in the top right hand corner just below the banner. R xx
I started with Paul Carroll at London Bridge Hospital (Private). He transferred me after paid consultation to St Thomas’ Hospital twice yearly. 5 years ago. Terrific care and support.
Jan
This is an article where Tom Brimeyer explains the use of orange juice:
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