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Hi guys

My latest email regarding my test results (I don’t have the full online results yet it takes a while for my GP surgery to upload them) this is direct from hospital.

I actually haven’t increased to 15mg (which I’ve replied back to her) I’m still on 10mg carbimazole. I feel like rubbish. I just don’t think I need to be on this much (I know it is a low dose!)

I have a GP appointment on Friday to ask whether I was tested for Graves along the way and I just can’t see the result (despite me having a letter saying I don’t have Graves but have symptoms consistent with Graves so are treating it as such) and next endocrine is September where I will ask for Graves test specifically if Gp confirms no record of it.

The results below mean nothing to me! So any feedback gratefully received on what it means!! I am considered as having an over active thyroid with symptoms “consistent with Graves”

TSH 0.22, Free T4 13.8.

TSH level has improved. A letter will follow.

Please continue 15mg Carbimazole.

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Nanaedake profile image
Nanaedake

You need to add the lab ranges to your results because labs vary and you need an FT3 result too.

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greygoose

In which case, you probably have Hashi's! Has no-one thought of that? Tested your TPO antibodies?

I have never heard anything so lame! You don't have Grave's but have symptoms of Grave's and so we're treating it as Grave's. What they should be doing is finding why you have symptoms of Grave's - by which, presumably, they mean symptoms of hyperthyroidism. And, the obvious explanation is Hashi's.

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Kelz21 in reply to greygoose

This is on my list to ask them as I know I definitely haven’t ever been tested for that

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ling

Kelz.

I refer to your earlier post 8 days ago -

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

What was the result of the scan done on your "misbehaving" thyroid nodule?

Presumably this is the cause of your hyperthyroidism??

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

Just that it’s an over active nodule (rest is fine) which they are trying to make behave with carbimazole

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ling in reply to Kelz21

Rest is fine meaning more than one nodule?

What are your symptoms when u say u feel like rubbish?

What is the range for that FT4?

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

I feel shattered all the time and not depressed but miserable! Anxiety (but could be unrelated)

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ling in reply to Kelz21

Can you describe shattered?

Will beta blockers help with the anxiety?

Have u taken these before?

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

Drained? So like foggy headed I can’t think straight some days, feels like sometimes I’m not really here. And just exhausted, but I do work long hours and travel for work so it could be unrelated to carbimazole in fairness

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ling in reply to Kelz21

Kelz.

You sound exhausted both physically and mentally. This exacerbates the hyperthyroid state, and makes you feel much worse.

I'm sorry to have to say this, but u need rest and to chill.

Depending on what the FT4 range is, you could be right in not raising the carbimazole to 15mg. Please share the range when u have it.

Do check out the beta blocker for the anxiety.

Best wishes.

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

Thanks very much for the advice!!!

Yes rest and chill is something I’m told to do more of often 😬

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

PS I only have those results until the full ones are posted the nurse just sent that on an email so only results I have

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ling in reply to Kelz21

What does rest is fine referring to?

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

Sorry! The thyroid. It’s just one nodule over acting.

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MiniMum97

With results like you have listed above you do not need any more carbimazole. Your T4 is already at the bottom of the range. And your T3 is within range. Odd that it’s at the top and T4 is at the bottom is that correct? Have they tried taking you off carbimazole to see what happens? They shouldn’t be assessing your need for carbimazole by TSH. It can take ages to come up after being suppressed for a long period. In some people it never comes up again!

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Kelz21 in reply to MiniMum97

I’ve been on carbimazole for a suppressed TH for 3 years now :( and it’s never ever made any difference!

I have asked to reduce then come off to see what happens but they said I will become very ill and instead I need to consider the iodine treatment or removal! They are against reducing meds?! It’s extremely odd!

When I have my bloods done via GP it always comes back “normal no action” (as I’m guessing the ranges are normal) but they don’t seem to think so!

This problem was initially found whilst investigating stomach issues I was having and when it was discovered I didn’t start carbimazole for years! I was unmedicated and fine. But 3 years ago they insisted I had to start as my levels were worse (even though I felt fine! And had put on weight which I think is difficult for someone suffering with overactive thyroid?!)

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ling in reply to Kelz21

Please do get all antibodies tested for Hashimoto's and Graves

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Kelz21 in reply to ling

I will definitely

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MiniMum97 in reply to Kelz21

That’s ridiculous. You really need to see someone else. You could have gone into remission (if indeed you do have graves). Taking you off carbimazole to see what happens is a perfectly reasonable and normal approach. Get a second opinion.

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Kelz21 in reply to MiniMum97

Thank you!

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Your Ft4 looks low

No FT3 or antibodies or vitamins results

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask GP to test vitamin levels

You may need to get full Thyroid testing privately as NHS refuses to test TG antibodies if TPO antibodies are negative

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

For thyroid including antibodies and vitamins

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

Essential to test TSI or TRab antibodies to confirm Graves' disease

Private testing for suspected Graves - TSI or TRab antibodies

medichecks.com/thyroid-func...

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Kelz21 in reply to SlowDragon

Thank you for these! The prices aren’t actually as bad as I thought they would be! I have contacted them to see which they advise first, or whether they think I should just opt for two of the tests (one to check the meds effectiveness and one to check the graves status etc) as I couldn’t see both under one test.

They took me off my vitamin supplements as my B12 was too high?! My husband was confused by that as he said surely if any vitamin is too high the body will just get rid of it, but I don’t really know how that works and did as I was told!

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Lora7again in reply to Kelz21

Some vitamins are expelled in your urine if you don't need them but vitamin D isn't and it can become toxic if you take too much. For example my Ferritin is 300 which is double what it should be. I am not taking any tablets now and it is high because I have inflammation in my body because my CRP is 9.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Kelz21

B12 is always high when supplementing or having B12 injections. It's not a problem, it's water soluble and excess is got rid of in urine

If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before any blood tests, as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

Low B12 symptoms

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

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