Has T3 liothyronine helped you?

[cc120]

A source recommended to me a website who supplies LA Pharma brand of liothyronine, that is, 100 mcg per pill. The pill itself is scored and is meant to be cut into 25 mcg quarters using a pill cutter.

Sounds fiddly to me

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

cc120

You'd need to cut it smaller than that. Starting dose when adding T3 is 6.25mcg, increasing gradually by 6.25mcg at a time. I take T3 with my Levo, have done for a couple of years, after lots of tweaking of both Levo and T3, the dose of T3 that I need is 18.75mcg.

[cc120 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you. I guess will need somewhere that supplies bigger pills or lower per pill doses.

[BadHare in reply to cc120]

UniPharma 25mcg split into quarters very easily, though they're not scored. I manage to split them even smaller pieces when I'm adjusting dose, though that's not so accurate. I'm currently honing splitting into thirds.

[cc120 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you SeasideSusie. I'm hoping to receive some Unipharma T3 soon. Will cut into quarters. How long on approx 6mcg? Currently on 125mcg levothyroxine. When I start on the 6mcg t3, should I reduce levo by 25mcg?

How long should I remain on 6mcg T3 before increasing to 12mcg, and should I reduce levo further when I increase?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to cc120]

I hope your source of Unipharma T3 has been recommended by an established member of the forum, there are some unscrupulous suppliers who take money and don't deliver.

Without seeing your current results for TSH, FT4 and FT3, it's not possible to say whether you should reduce your Levo. Post your latest results and say how much Levo you are currently taking and how long you've been on that dose.

Nutrient levels all need to be optimal before adding T3 and they weren't when you posted about a month ago.

[cc120 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thank you SeasideSusie, and for the alert.

The post with my results is healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

And have started some supplementation, and hopefully GP will load Vit D re your recommendations but will still need to sort out nutrient/vit levels.

However, as am struggling, someday's better than others, but no actual 'good' days. Day before yesterday slept all day and night, but still had very limited energy the following day.

Hoping T3 will give me enough energy to deal with urgent matters eg roof leak, & ultimately sort out supplements / GP, etc.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to cc120]

If I've read that correctly then you were on 75mcg which gave these results

27/03/19

TSH 0.07 (0.27 to 4.20)

FT4 19.1 (10.8 to 25.5)

FT3 3.5 (3.1 to 6.8)

and you increased to 150mcg

If I've understood correctly then you need to retest to see where your levels are now before starting T3 as those results were from 4 months ago and on a much lower dose. Also you should work on your nutrient levels before adding T3.

[cc120 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hi SeasideSusie, I had a more recent blood test but though was sent a copy of the letter to GP from consultant, though I asked for a copy of blood test, didn't receive. Will see if I can get from GP.

If I start the T3 now, will I not get a bit of extra energy?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to cc120]

T3 didn't give me any extra energy. It took me many months of tweaking doses before I knew I was in a better place than before. Some people experience a difference quickly, others don’t. But without your current results you don't know what to do about your Levo dose.

If you are lacking energy, feeling fatigued, that can be due to low iron/Ferritin.

[cc120 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hi SeasideSusie, I've had low iron for years but have felt better than this on some thyroid meds.

[Quilliam]

I take this brand and take a quarter pill (25 mcg) every morning.

[cc120 in reply to Quilliam]

Thank you Quilliam.

[Angel_of_the_North]

LA Pharma is generally not good for people who are actually hypo. Usually just used by bodybuilders. Most reviews say it is weak rubbish. Not recommended. Look for Cytomel, Tiromel or Unipharma

[Quilliam in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Where are these reviews, may I ask? It has been working wonderfully for me.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Quilliam]

Do you consider it has the around the same effect as a 100 microgram dose of any other liothyronine product?

The most common opinion I have seen is that it seems far weaker than the pretty much every other make (except, maybe, Tryotex).

[Quilliam in reply to helvella]

I take a quarter pill a day and it has the same effect as the a pill of tiromel that I used to get from Turkey. I just like the fact that I don’t have to run around trying to find supplies of Tiromel anymore. This tiny bottle has 100 pills so it lasts me over a year. Trying to hunt for the meds you need constantly can be really stressful.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Quilliam]

Thanks for explaining. I fully agree that not worrying where your next tablet is coming from is a huge positive - however it comes about.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Quilliam]

That makes sense, but I've heard people say that 25mcg of LA doesn't have the same effect as 25mcg unipharma - but that was a few years ago, so perhaps it has got better

[SueHG in reply to Quilliam]

Hi, where do you manage to get these meds, can you pm me please?

[Quilliam in reply to SueHG]

I Pm’ed you.

[endomad in reply to Quilliam]

I have also used them, I take 100mcg at night and I found them as good as unipharma, tiromel and my nhs T3. Cynomel in France is the only one I can notice as better and would alternate 75/100mcg daily. The price of the 100mcg is much better than most and always reliablyin stock. I know at least 8 others who use it.

[Shug1974 in reply to Quilliam]

Hi, was wondering if you could private message me as to where you order your T3 from please as have not been able to get mine anymore.

Many thanks in advance.

[Quilliam in reply to Shug1974]

PM’ed you.

[LindaC in reply to helvella]

When it seemed that nothing was available anywhere - someone got me triyotex 75 mcg - 30 capsules - I was in no state to fiddle with capsules - they expired Nov 2018 - I am told that these dates are pretty arbitrary. I don't know of anyone taking such a large amount in one go... they're just lying there - stuck between Cynomel and UniPharma This is what happens when we're treated like children and the market fluctuates due to...

[endomad in reply to LindaC]

There are quite a few of on this site that take over 100mcg t3 daily. I have been on 150mcg previously and I always take T3 in one dose. I think it was Dr skinner who said if you drip water onto a sponge it never gets fully wet, you have to drench it. He said our cells are the same, you have to soak them not drip feed. Split dose keeps me hypo but we are all different.

[LindaC in reply to endomad]

Ah, thanks for that - I know of people who have/do take all in one go. Dr John Lowe did, I'm sure there's an Admin on here who does. Sadly, being ignored for so long before diagnosis, I have Sinus Arrhythmia [from 2003/04 - not captured until 2007 - just recently said to be 'Marked'], so I'm concerned about taking it all in one go... on the other hand, maybe that's just what I need!? Who can tell?

Anyone taking T3 with marked sinus arrhythmia? I've felt much better since taking it.

It was Dr Skinner who diagnosed me and for several years I took Armour Thyroid, thanks to him... I can hear him saying that! It was Dr P who got me onto T3 - grand pair!

[endomad in reply to LindaC]

God bless Dr P yes he started me onto my road to recovery. My mistake yes it was Dr Lowe who said drench our t3 receptor cells not dr skinner, it is so hot over in france my brain has gone to sleep

[LindaC in reply to endomad]

Lucky you it's drizzling, damp and horrible here xox - ENJOY!

Right, thank you for that re Dr Lowe - I love[d] the work of John Lowe... was thinking of trying to get to see him [I've family in the US] - so sad that I didn't Nothing scares me... "Strong as an ox, with the balls of a lion"... yet with this damned arrhythmia - I was taking more T3 until some *&^% endo 'advised', so I dropped it - not a good idea; not like NHS ever funded mine. I did, however, get years of Armour Thyroid funded by NHS.

[endomad in reply to LindaC]

The nhs stopped mine for 10 months which is why I stockpiled loads of T3 as I had no idea how long I would have to fund mine for. It was reinstated with individual funding which I have to jump through hoops for, I have a blood test every 3 months and see endo before repeat prescription, which is bonkers and a waste of endos time as he said I will need it for life and doubts I will ever need change of dose. He knows I am savvy enough to lower by myself if I was to feel over medicated. I have very low cortisol which doesn't help, it's a bloomin minefield this thyroid lark. Xx

[LindaC in reply to endomad]

Yup, know the feeling - I have cortisol issues too [Dr Peatfield days] - I have had to [expensively] stock up way beyond any need due to fear of the huge scarcity happening again. I was pretty worried last time Costly business, what with all of the vits/mins/supplements etc, but what's to be done? Minefield on so many levels - agreed. Take care and be well - we must take care of ourselves... pretty much all we have. xox

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Quilliam]

On several thyroid forums and also bodybuilding forums

[Esya47]

Hello cc120 ! You need to start with smallest dose possible and increase every 7-10 days . It takes time, but it is very important. T3 is pretty strong hormone and need to introduce to the body slowly by smallest dose possible. In US the smallest pill is 5.0 mcg. I increased it around 6 weeks total than stayed additional 6 weeks on my last dose . Did my blood test to see where I am with my free T3 results. In addition,I checked my 3pm temperature every day . The optimal is 36.9-37 c.

[cc120 in reply to Esya47]

Thank you Esya47. What amount, if any, should I reduce levothyroxine dose of 125mcg, when I start the 6mcg dose of T3 (will have 25mcg to quarter cut)?

What is your current dose of T3?

[Esya47]

Hi,cc120! Currently I am on 50 mg of NDT in the morning and 50 mg after

3 pm .

I reduced my T3 from 30 mcg to 15 mcg : I take 5 mcg 10 am ,1 pm,and 6 pm.

I started to have palpitations and my heart rate was over 95. Now I am much better with my heart race. T3 is also strong heart stimulant. In my age I need to be on little lower than optimal.

[cc120 in reply to Esya47]

Thank you Esya47. Which NDT do you take, and do you take all Thyroid meds on an empty stomach?

[Vicky789]

Hi can you pm me supplier too please x

[Esya47]

I order NDT Thyrovanz on line: “Thyrovanz.com”

[Esya47]

I order NDT -Thyrovanz online: “Thyrovanz.com”