This is because tinkerbell22 has just shared that vitamin d in tablet form makes her muscles ache
So, she stopped it and tried the spray version and her muscle aches disappeared!
Thank you tinkerbell22!!
This is SO interesting because I increased my vitamin D this week, at the suggestion of so many on this forum, to about 3 times what I normally take, to 800 iu, and my usual Sunday 60 m ride today was the worst I have ever done, as my muscles, the vastus medialis mainly, (the main cycling muscles) were so achy both during the ride and now
I also noticed this 2 years ago, when I had a similar experience with achy muscles on my Sunday ride after taking 1000iu Vit d for a few days before my Sunday ride, but didn't link the 2 together!
So, has anybody had a similar experience with vitamin d in tablet form please?
Hello. All I can say is that I spent a fortune on massage and chiropractic for years. Then I started spray Vit D - 4 sprays on the tongue in the morning. I have not been to the chiropractor for three months. I have cancelled my regular massages. It has been life changing. I was low on D so am taking 4000. About to get tested, but I think I will need to stay on a high does. That’s an aside - however, it is worth getting tested. Never took the tablets so I cannot make the comparison you are maybe looking for. Maybe someone else can.
If by "sprays onto the tongue" you mean onto its upper surface, you are likely losing some if not all the benefits of taking it in spray form. It is designed for sublingual or buccal administration, so that by being absorbed through the mucous membrane under the tongue or in the cheek area and into the many tiny capillaries there, it passes via the jugular vein I believe, into the blood stream. Spraying onto the top of the tongue won't have the same effect and you're more likely to simply swallow it and take it up by the normal oral route.
All tablets have excipients and you could be reacting to something.
Why not try the purest form of D3 that you can find. Two suggestions:
Doctor's Best softgels which contain just 2 ingredients - Vitamin D3 (as Cholecaliferol) and Extra Virgin Olive Oil in a Softgel Capsule (Bovine Gelatin, Glycerin, Purified Water)
Vitabay Organics liquid which contains D3 as cholecalciferol (vegetable) and oil to aid absorption - Orange vegetable oil, tangerine oil (vegetable), olive oil (vegetable).
Many members use the BetterYou oral spray but it does have many inactive ingredients:
As you are vegan, you may not be happy with Doctor's Best softgels as I believe the D3 is lanolin from sheep's wool and the softgels containe bovine gelatin. In this case the Vitabay Organics liquid would be more suitable.
Do you take vit K2 with your vit D? Taking vit d increases absorption of calcium from food, and the K2 makes sure it gets into the bones and teeth, and doesn't build up in the blood and soft tissues. Excess calcium can cause achy muscles. Just a thought.
An awful lot of veg contain calcium, you know. Carrots and dried beans, for example, and lentils and all seeds. And fruit, like oranges. Dried fruit contains a lot of calcium. Dairy isn't the only source.
Have you actually had your calcium tested? Could be you're getting far too much and that is causing your leg aches.
I wonder if I’m taking too much K2? I take vitamin D3 all the time and I have been tested and it is low even taking 2000 I.U. Per day. I tried taking the K2 but it makes me feel worse I wonder if I’m taking too much? One that I have tried is the MK7 form 90 mg. I’ve also tried an “all natural” derived from organically - it doesn’t seem to matter. Blood pressure goes up, etc. I do not feel well when I’ve tried it. presently my Dr. has prescribed 5000 I.U. Of D3 per day, and it seems to be fine. Still - I am worried about calcification of soft tissue. Any other helps for calcium going where it needs to go other than K2?
On a similar note to Grey Goose do you take Magnesium with your Vitamin D? Magnesium gets depleted through sweat and exertion - a 60 mile bike ride would definitely use up Magnesium ( and Potassium). It is needed to turn vitamin D into its active form and regulates the uptake of Calcium. I take vitamin D in Dr Sarah Myhill's mineral mix which has a physiological blend of electrolytes with vitamin d and b12.
As Greygoose has pointed out you can get muscle aches if one favors vitamin d and calcium over magnesium... particularly in the summer when we exercise more and have more sun on our skins. The ratios are important.
Our diet should have a 2:1 ratio of Calcium to Magnesium. The ratios can easily get skewed on a Western Diet. Being vegan should help you enormously to be fair, but still there are plenty of things like tea, for example, that binds to Magnesium to prevent its absorption.
This link (for CFS / Fibro sufferers) explains how Magnesium gets lost from the body or fails to be absorbed.
That's interesting, thank you for posting. I started to get more muscle pain supplementing Vit D then read Dr Gominak on Rightsleep talking about B vitamin relationship with Vit D and particularly the resultant low B5 causing pain. Have a look at the Sleep and Vitamins page and the Vitamin D page drgominak.com/vitamin-d/. I use Nature's Answer Vit D3 drops (in olive oil) which I am very impressed with (and don't react to, unlike most things). Cheers.
Yes could be the excipients/additives in anything you take, breathe, drink or eat. Sometimes things are fine on their own, but you react to a certain mixture. I'd go with oil based emulsions or sprays are you are more likely to absorb them
Wow all. I am just getting onto this advice and feel I need a chemistry lesson, I take just vit D but do have a hey legs sometimes. I take 125mg levo (meant to take 150 but it makes my IBS unbearable ).
Is there somewhere o can read what supplements to try ? So I took from here get some Vit D spray, magnesium, K2,
IBS symptoms are no longer an issue for me after decades of pointless suffering. I have found the following helps...
No gluten - zero
Some goat dairy cheese and organic cow dairy butter, but no cow based casein and no lactose ( unsweetened coconut milk is good)
Vitamin B5 - brilliant for gut transit and good for the brain as it lowers stress and it also prevents the weight gain around our middles which occurs with cortisol issues
Magnesium - I have bitten the bullet and gone for an expensive liquid form. Drinking tea or coffee limits the uptake of the mineral from tablets. Epsom Salt baths and Better You Magnesium sprays are great for aching limbs and extremities - my mildly arthritic hands for example benefit from the lotion to keep the joints supple.
Freshly made bone broth (full of amino acids) is good for the gut. The only caveat is that it becomes very histamine rich when left in the fridge for too long. I've heard about vegetable broths being good, but I wonder how rich in glycine they can be..
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