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Just had a quick chat with anaesthatist before I go down for my operation today he said my T3 is 6.5 and my TSH is 0.04 and my FT4 is 15.3

That's all he could see can someone please tell me what this means he thinks I'm over medicated with T3 ? Thanks in advance

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Hi Jodiedebs55

We need the ranges of the blood test as ranges vary from different labs

Can you put them on and members can advise.

Best Wishes

Peanut31

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Jodiedebs55 in reply toPeanut31

No I cant unfortunately as the anaesthatist just gave them to me quickly and I wasn't able to get the full ranges but he said my FT4 was dangerously high ?? And I'm over medicated with T3 ? I take 2.5 grains of armour

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m7-cola in reply toJodiedebs55

Don’t worry about this now. Wait until you are out of hospital and back in your normal environment. If you are asked just tell them you will look into it with your doctor later.

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Jodiedebs55 in reply tom7-cola

Thankyou

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toJodiedebs55

I don't think your FT4 is dangerously high at 15.3. The lowest range we see on here, which is the one at my surgery, is 7-17 so even with that one you're well within range.

Your FT3 is likely to be top or over range, your TSH is obviously under range, and it's low TSH they normally worry about when operating.

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Jodiedebs55 in reply toSeasideSusie

Thankyou so much I was worried

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Jodiedebs55

Well I don't feel well to be honest I'm chronically lethargic I barely get up unless I have to and I was doing so well on armour but it's not so good now and I'm getting really bad afib and the anaesthatist reckons it is due to the T3 in my NDT , I never had afib until i took NDT to be honest so i may try T4 and T3 myself , i don't know what to do for the best

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humanbean in reply toJodiedebs55

Just out of curiosity...

How can you tell the difference between "ordinary" palpitations or erratic heartbeat and atrial fibrillation?

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Greekchick in reply tohumanbean

Hi Humanbean,

Here’s a link that describes the difference and provides the specific symptoms for Afib:

mayoclinic.org/diseases-con...

Hope this helps!

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Jodiedebs55 in reply toGreekchick

Mine is paroxysmal it comes and goes the most severe episode lasted 45 mins luckily the ambulance arrived in time to catch it and traced it on the ECG otherwise I'd have been trying to convince my gp it was more than palpitations

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humanbean in reply toGreekchick

Greekchick Jodiedebs55

I've read several descriptions of afib but I still don't know how I'm supposed to tell the difference between afib and palpitations.

1) I get occasional palpitations.

2) I get occasional erratic heart beat.

3) I get occasional chest pain.

All three of them go away if I take either a low dose beta blocker, a magnesium supplement, or a potassium supplement, or sometimes all three. (I usually start with magnesium, then try potassium, then try the low dose beta blocker.) If I allow my iron levels to drop (which they do whenever I stop taking my maintenance doses) that may cause all three problems too, but it usually takes a few iron tablets over a week or so to make the problem go away and stay away for a while.

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Greekchick in reply tohumanbean

Hi hunanbean,

Have you been evaluated by a physician? My brother has afib and his symptoms are constant and did not go away until he was treated by a cardiologist. You get sweaty, your heart races, you can’t walk or move around easily, your skin turns a grey pallor. For some people, they are symptomless, but for others like my brother, they are quite strong. It seems to me you need to be diagnosed properly. I would not try to deal with cardiac issues on my own. Afib is a serious condition and can requires proper diagnosis and treatment by a cardiologist.

You mention you take a beta blocker. Do you take it regularly? These are often given to patients who have palpitations that may or may not be caused by a cardiac condition. I am not a doctor and would not presume to give anyone medical advice on diagnosing afib. I would urge you to get a referral to a cardiologist if you have any doubts, or at minimum ask your GP to get you an EKG.

Sending you good thoughts and wishes.

Please

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humanbean in reply toGreekchick

No, I don't take the beta blocker regularly. I did when it was first prescribed, but I discovered that each dose had effects on my blood pressure and heart rate that lasted longer than 24 hours, so the effect was cumulative.

After a few days my blood pressure was roughly 93/45, my heart rate was under 50 beats a minute and I was unable to reach the top of the street I live in. I was very dizzy, very out of breath, and very close to fainting.

Now, I halve my beta blockers and take a half only when necessary. Most of the time my BP is now normal i.e. around 125/75 or 120/70 or thereabouts, and HR is around 75.

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Greekchick in reply tohumanbean

Sounds like you have figured out what works for you - beta blockers can really lower your pressure to the point you reached - and you feel worse. Just monitor yourself as you have been doing and if there are changed, please get checked out. All the best.

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Jodiedebs55 in reply tohumanbean

Wow I would definitely get that checked out I have been in an ambulance twice on both occasions they said paroxysmal afib which means it comes and goes and it's not constant, the attacks are getting far more severe I have heavy sweats almost unable to walk , dizzy , chest pain it's very frightening, I'm having a 24 hour ECG next week then a 7 day ECG if the 24 hour one doesn't show anything up but I think its defo paroxysmal afib, my mother and 3 sisters have it and their symptoms were identical they are now on warfarin, I have palpitations about twice /3 times a week but afib is a totally different experience and what concerns me is if the blood clots and goes off to the heart or brain THAT is my major concern , I hope you get a diagnosis for peace of mind take care

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Jodiedebs55 in reply tohumanbean

Absolutely theres a huge difference I was sweating profusely I had a numb arm tingling fingers and my heart was galloping and completely missing beats I could physically feel it and it caused shortness of breath I was sat in the ambulance and he took my pulse and said wow that's 3 missed beats per beat I was petrified totally different to the usual palpitations they are completely different

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Jodiedebs55

Thankyou I take 2 of those every other night shall I take 2 more through the day ? I take a huge amount of vitamins but didn't think to up the mag thanks for that tip

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Jodiedebs55

Thankyou for this , I don't have Facebook, I know the importance of magnesium it just seems to give me a headache and keeps me awake plus I cant take it in the day as il be splitting my T3 so it will interfere with it I think but il look to see what I can do I already take vit C , I know its beneficial, thank you so much for your advice and time ,

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Not sure what brand they are I buy them from Amazon il check

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