Can anyone please give me advice on what "Heart Meds" to take with Thyroxin. I take 100mcg Thyroxin daily. I had an ECG in June because of recurring Chest Pain & The Cardio Nurse at my local Hospital says that I most likely had a Mild Heart Attack in Feb when I first had the symptoms.. She prescribed Aspirin 75mcg daily, Bisoprolol 1.25mcg, Isosorbide Mononitrate 15mg both to be taken daily. She also change my Bezafibrate 400mcg to Atorvastatin 20mcg daily. I did tell her that I had taken Statins when my GP first diagnosed High Cholesterol (over 10years ago now) but the didn't agree with me, given me pain in the lower right leg and sleeplessness. However I did take the Avort for nearly 3 weeks, only for the same symptoms to return, so I reverted back to the Bezafibrate. However, and this is what I need the advice on please, the 2 Heart Tablets that she prescribed both said "do not take if you have an Under Active Thyroid". Long story short, I spoke to my GP and I now have an Appointment with a Cardio Specialist on the 31st. So will discuss it with him, but just thought there may be someone on this site that has the same probs & could advise me. Many thanks for reading.
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First thing is, do you have any actual blood test results?
if not will need to get hold of copies. You are legally entitled to printed copies of your blood test results and ranges.
UK GP practices are supposed to offer online access for blood test results. Ring and ask if this is available and apply to do so if possible, if it is you may need enhanced access to see blood results.
In reality many GP surgeries do not have blood test results online yet
Alternatively ring receptionist and request printed copies of results. Allow couple of days and then go and pick up. They can no longer charge for printing out, rules changed after May 25th 2018
Can you add most recent results and ranges for TSH, FT3 and FT4, plus have you also had thyroid antibodies tested, vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 tested. Add results and ranges if you have them
Any tests not been done ask GP to do them
Low vitamins are EXTREMELY common. Low iron can cause chest pain
You're very unlikely to get FT3 or TG antibodies tested by NHS, but worth asking
Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies or vitamins
Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have money off offers.
All thyroid tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. When on Levothyroxine, take last dose 24 hours prior to test, and take next dose straight after test. This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, GP will be unaware)
If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).
About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's. Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten. So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .
Hi Gingerthecat I take Thyroxine, Apixaban, Bisoprolol, Isosorbide Mononitrate, Simvastatin, the Bisoprolol seems to make me tired. Hope this helps. Best wishes.
Thanks for your reply. Thyroid UK think Statins are bad for us Under Actives. It's all very confusing. However, I don't want to be more tired than I am so will speak to the Cardio Spec on Wed see what he suggests. Thanks again.
beta blockers compromise the conversion of T4 to the active T3 so no wonder you are tired, it is working to make you more hypo. And since they don't check the T3 it will not show up on a thyroid test.
Hello...a couple of weeks back I was admitted with chest pain. This is obviously subjective, not medical advice, but may help. This followed an 8 week period of sever hypothyroid symptom recurrence. When we had 35 degree heat, I had bloods done. Not surprisingly, new GP reduced Levo, and did so every three weeks, leaving me on 25, and virtually bed bound. Some days I could hardly move for pain. Persuaded her to put me back up to 50, then 75. That was when I had the chest pain, or rock like heaviness. Hospital gave me aspirin and three other clot busters simultaneously, and I felt my chest clear, after 14 hours, so commonsense makes me think it was possibly a clot, caused by several weeks of inactivity. Throughout, the obs showed pulse at around 50-60, Temp 35-36 degrees, BP low. Cardiologists tried to get me to agree to statins IN A and E! I declined. Made the point that high cholestrol goes with the Hypo territory, but this was not even commented upon. Cardio said I was over medicated with Levo and prescribed Bisoprolol. Was really worried about this and have decided not to take it: a. I have asthma b. I already have a really slow pulse, c. Am already very tired and still building up levels.
Up to you to question this, I think. Reckon my experience shows that specialties in medicine don't see the whole picture! All the best...
Hi BlueMoon65, thanks for your reply. Hope your feeling better now. I haven't taken any of the Beta Blockers I was given by the Senior Cardio Nurse, off to see the Specialist Cardio Doctor tomorrow, but reading your blog & others makes me think that they don't take Thyroid problems too seriously! Will wait and see what he says.
High cholesterol is directly related to being peripherally hypothyroid I.e not converting T4 to T3. Prudent to check this conversion and if possible also do reverse T3 (created by too much unconverted T4).
The heart works on T3 only. CoQ10 preferably with PQQ is best taken with statins to counteract their side effects. With correct T4/3 medication, diet and lifestyle choices your cholesterol will normalise.
Remineralise with magnesium and the other thyroid supporting minerals.
I use ReMag and ReMyte (Botanicahealth) developed by Dr Carolyn Dean who recovered her own cardiac issues developed from hypothyroidism.
Dr Dean has numerous free ebooks on this topic and her ground breaking book “The Magnesium Miracle’ is worth a read. and potentially life-changing.
Thanks so much! Will definitely obtain this...unfortunately, it seems that so much secondary illness is being caused by ignorance of basic thyroid function knowledge.
I have an under active thyroid and AFib. I take Pradaxa, Felodipine soon to be changed to another calcium channel blocker, Frusemide as a diuretic and have recently stopped Atorvastatin and waiting for cholesterol blood test. And 125 of Levo.
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