Can Lyme disease cause thyroidism?

[pffft2017]

I saw a piece on TV some time ago where the founder of Phones4U developed hyperthyroidism after being infected with Lyme disease. Now 11 members of his family have Lyme disease and he's convinced it's passed from human to human as well as through ticks. Have any thyroid sufferers been exposed to infected ticks or a pet that had them?

[Charlie1606]

I started with M.E symptoms before being diagnosed during tests found i had seriously under active thyroid

[pffft2017 in reply to Charlie1606]

Sorry to hear that. Just found this piece, the symptoms of Lyme disease sound oh so familiar. We condemn the Russians for Novichok, but what of the misery the Americans have caused their own people and now the rest of the world?

rense.com/general69/lyme.htm

[Treepie in reply to pffft2017]

Another false news story.Don’t blame the US for Lyme disease ,the yanks did not create it as a biological weapon like the Russians created Novichok. The UK experimented with anthrax on a Scottish Island during WW11.

The deer population is booming.Culling them would be a start in controlling Lyme disease.

[pffft2017 in reply to Treepie]

topdocumentaryfilms.com/und...

Fake news? Oh really O'Reilly? Google "Plum Island"

I'm not suggesting the Americans created Lyme disease as it already existed. There is conclusive evidence they were experimenting with it and inexplicably released the infected ticks into the wild on Plum Island which were then spread by birds. It's also a strange coincidence that during the recent resurgence of Ebola there was only one American lab that was working with it. Oh I'm sure there's some weird and wonderful and not so wonderful things being incubated at Porton Down but I doubt they are relevant to Thyroid UK forums.

[shaws Administrator in reply to Charlie1606]

One of our Advisers stated that about ten years after the introduction of blood tests (in place of clinical symptoms) three new diseases were named:-

i.e. ME, CFS and Fibro.

Before blood tests everyone was diagnosed on clinical symptoms and given a trial of NDT.

[Charlie1606 in reply to shaws]

Thank you pffft i think you just opened up The answer to mystery of cfs me fm conundrum

[pffft2017 in reply to Charlie1606]

Thanks you might find this interesting.

topdocumentaryfilms.com/und...

I remember my dog picked up 3 ticks in the New Forest circa 2000 and I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism in 2004, the TSH was so high the doc said I must have had it for years.

[Charlie1606 in reply to shaws]

Shaws sorry for my ignorance NDT?

[Nanaedake in reply to Charlie1606]

Natural, Dessicated Thyroxine usually comprised of porcine thyroid. NDT.

[shaws Administrator in reply to Charlie1606]

That's fine - before we became hypo it would have been foreign to us. NDT stands for the very original thyroid hormone replacement which was first used in 1892 and thereafter people recovered from hypothyroidism. Before then myxedema was a truly awful death. NDT was gradually withdrawn from the NHS although it can still be sourced.

NDT = natural dessicated thyroid hormones is made from pigs' thyroid glands which are dessicated and made into tablets nowadays. I think when first given to patients it would have been the whole thyroid gland. Not too pleasant I would imagine but they survived and others more knowledgeable than I will respond.

NDT all of the hormones our healthy gland would have produced, i.e. T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. Big Pharma has done its best to promote levo (T4 only) as better than NDT but many still find it suits their body better than levo and they can recover from their symptoms.

It was prescribed quite frequently until it was also withdrawn as T3 has recently been.

medicinenet.com/myxedema_co...

This is an excerpt from one of our deceased Advisers:-

Barnes was right when, long ago, he wrote that circulating levels of hormones don't measure what's most important—how the patient's tissues are responding to a dosage of thyroid hormone. Our regimen involves multiple measures of how tissues are responding to a particular dosage, repeated at short intervals in a highly systematic way. Our model of assessment is taken from behavior modification, in which I was trained in the early 1970s. We know from hundreds of trial runs that we can precisely control the metabolic status of most patients only by using these multiple measures of tissue response. We adjust each patient's dosage until these measures tell use we've achieved normal tissue metabolic status—regardless of what the patient's circulating hormone levels are. I concede that you can do some fairly good tweaking by using free T3 and T4 levels. But still, if the patient's tissue responses aren't carefully assessed, the clinician isn't focusing on what's most important—the patient's physiological and clinical responses to treatment.

web.archive.org/web/2010103...

Dr Lowe only took one blood test for the initial diagnosis and thereafter it was all about how the patients' symptoms were relieved.

[Charlie1606 in reply to shaws]

Thank you shaws

[mourneadventurer]

Immune suppression can be caused by genetic, environmental and lifestyle factors. If we don’t methylate properly and then add in high stress poor eating habits, lack of sleep, EMFs etc then we unwittingly lead ourselves wide open to infection.

The one molecule of Iodine released when T4 converts to T3 (the active hormone) has anti pathogenic properties. I surmise when we have an underlying bacterial infection our key minerals get used up and we are left compromised.

The Lyme bacteria and coinfections have the ability to hide from our immune using biofilms.

When the underlying infectious load is reduced starting with biggest to smallest ie parasites, bacteria and viruses with something like Quicksilver Scientific GI Detox followed by Black Box 2 (great podcasts) distributor ProActive Healthcare.. and

Simultaneously improve your immune defences including biofilm disrupters like Serrapeptase.

Because T3 and reverse T3 is rarely tested most hypothyroid patients are blissfully unaware of their vulnerability.

There are other Lyme disease vectors than ticks such as horse flies.

[Charlie1606 in reply to mourneadventurer]

I remember being attacked by horsefly 10 years ago at marton mere caravan park b/pool,interesting

[mourneadventurer in reply to Charlie1606]

That is interesting, ultimately focus on the solution not the challenge. I.e boost immunity and eradicate whatever is compromising your systems. Perhaps have a look at ReMag and ReMyte (Botanicahealth) as a start.

[Charlie1606 in reply to mourneadventurer]

It seems to me entirely possible that after getting infected that takes around 4 years to manifest(overwhelm our immune system) any thoughts on this

[mourneadventurer in reply to Charlie1606]

I think it depends on what background level of immunity one starts out with. Underlying background infections causing inflammation trundle unnoticed in the background and pain and stiffness is put down to ageing. When treating hypothyroidism the underlying causes are not addressed which will cause electrolyte and vitamin imbalances. Unaddressed These suppress the immune system even further and leave us sitting ducks for opportunistic pathogens such as H Pylori and Borrelia sp.

[Charlie1606 in reply to mourneadventurer]

Wow was treated for h pylori too