Buying T3 abroad

[Slowfarmer]

Hi having read lots of your posts I see everyone is buying T3 abroad, would you be able to let me have the websites where I can do this as like everyone else the medical profession are blocking me using T3 due to cost. Many thanks for your help.

[Clutter]

Welcome to the forum, Slowfarmer.

Do you mean your GP refuses to prescribe T3 or that you have been prescribed T3 and your prescription is being withdrawn?

[Slowfarmer in reply to Clutter]

He refuses both T3 and Armour will only give T4 citing cost as the reason rather than clinical need.

[Clutter in reply to Slowfarmer]

Slowfarmer,

If you post your recent thyroid results and ranges and say what dose Levothyroxine you are taking we'll advise whether adding T3 will be helpful and, if so, how much.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

If you have Hashimoto's (high thyroid antibodies) and or low vitamin D, folate, ferritin or B12 these need improving first before starting T3

If you have results and ranges, add them to your post and members can advise

[Slowfarmer]

Hi thanks for your help I do have Hashimoto's and "fibromyalgia" I have also been diagnosed with Lyme and have addressed the low vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12. Results from medichecks 07.12.17. TSH 5.27, Free T4 22.7, Total thyroxine 104 ,Free T3 3.62, Reverse T3 20, Reverse T3 ratio 11.78, Thyroglobulin antibody 326, Thyroid peroxidase antibodies 180.

GP apparently thinks this satisfactory currently on 75 Levothyroxine only and in a very bad way!

[Clutter in reply to Slowfarmer]

Slowfarmer,

GP should try living with TSH 5.27 and he'd soon find out just how unsatisfactory 75mcg is!

When you get the the T3 quarter the tablet with a pillcutter and add 6.25mcg T3 to 75mcg Levothyroxine for a couple of weeks to see how well you tolerate T3. After that you can increase to a second 6.25mcg T3 dose to be taken at bedtime. Hold at 12.5mcg for 6-8 weeks and have a thyroid function test including FT3 before increasing further.

Thyroglobulin and thyroid peroxidase antibodies are positive for autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's). There is no cure for Hashimoto's which causes 90% of hypothyroidism. Levothyroxine treatment is for the low thyroid levels it causes. Many people have found that 100% gluten-free diet is helpful in reducing Hashi flares, symptoms and eventually antibodies.

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[Slowfarmer]

I would like to add that I have read a lot of research and books by both Paul Robinson - " Recovering with T3" and Dr John C Lowe's "Your Guide to Metabolic Health" I have also done 23andme genome and run through the Promethease program and found the gene profiling for Thyroid disease. This however does not impress GP! I desperately need to get T3 and am indebted to you for your help.

[silverfox7]

Even without the ranges, we always need to see them as they differ from lab to lab, you look like you might have a. Inversion problem. You say you have addressed low Vit Amin levels but does this include Vit D, B12, folate and ferritin and got optimal results, not just in range? See SeasideSusie's posts for guidance on those. If they are optimal then your. Onverstion should right itself and you may not then need T3 plus I feel it's always best to sort out everything that's not right first anyway.

[Slowfarmer]

Thanks for your help Vits as follows B12 256 pmol/L (very high), Folate 10.78ug/L (may need to increase) Vitamin D 181nmol/L at top of range, Ferritin 141ug/L also top of range. I will read Seaside Susie's post for more guidance.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

As you have Hashimoto's are you on strictly gluten free diet?

Many of us find it necessary before starting T3

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

But don't be surprised that GP or endo never mention gut, gluten or low vitamins. Hashimoto's is very poorly understood

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

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