Interesting study

[Girlslovescifi]

Support for T3 supplementation along with T4. sciencedaily.com/releases/1...

[shaws Administrator]

Thank you for posting. This study was done in 1999 and like many studies they are ignored.

Several other studies have also been undertaken with the same viewpoint.

One of our Advisers and his team have also won an award recently for their research:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Unfortunately the Endocrinology Societies apparently don't agree (they aren't researchers - nor do many listen to their patients' tales of woe ) and just to prove it, recently in the UK they have stopped all T3 prescriptions, leaving many patients high and dry.

[Girlslovescifi in reply to shaws]

Thanks. That's so interesting! I didn't realise that T3 was being stopped! I know that NDT is virtually impossible to get on the NHS now (although I know someone in Leeds who still can). My GP put it like this, "I'd get my knuckles severely rapped if I prescribed NDT."

[shaws Administrator in reply to Girlslovescifi]

It is because of the 'Guidelines' laid down by the BTA etc. It is because the pharma companies have made untrue statements which were believed and so the Associations repeat it. One doctor wrote the following to the BTA and RCoP as these hormone replacements are much superior for many patients with hypothyroidism. Those whose symptoms are relieved on levo wont be on this forum.

They don't care one iota if someone gets relief of clinial symptoms with NDT and that's why many members are forced to source their own.

Despite Dr Lowe sending three yearly reminders for a response to the following, they never did respond before his untimely death.

thyroidscience.com/Criticis...

Also, because NDT has been in use since 1892 and has proved safe and successful throughout the years it has proven it's effectiveness and given thousands back their lives.

[Girlslovescifi in reply to shaws]

Rumour has it that both the Queen and Hilary Clinton take NDT.

[RedApple Administrator in reply to Girlslovescifi]

Hilary Clinton yes definitely (Armour I heard) but The Queen? Where did you hear that rumour?

[Girlslovescifi in reply to RedApple]

I can't remember.

[shaws Administrator in reply to Girlslovescifi]

If you have money you can get what you want I don't think the doctor would refuse. If the Queen is prescribed it was all that was available before the 60's.

That's all that was available (NDT) and even up to about 6 years ago some doctors still prescribed till the BTA, again, came up with a very strange proposal that instead of GPs providing hypo patients with theNDT (T4, T3, T2, T1 and calictonin) they'd have levothyroxine (T4 only). I wonder how the Pharmaceutical companies persuaded everyone that T4 was the preferred treatment, so their promotions must have been exceptional. Excerpt from Dr Lowe:

"I spent a lot of time talking with other doctors about thyroid hormone therapy. I soon learned that most doctors tenaciously held two beliefs that had been shrewdly planted in their minds by the corporation that marketed Synthroid. The beliefs were: (1) the potency of Synthroid tablets was perfectly reliable, and (2) the potency of the tablets or capsules of other products—especially Armour Thyroid— was highly unreliable.

Based on these two beliefs, the doctors dogmatically pronounced that all hypothyroid patients should be treated with Synthroid. The doctors’ pronouncement was thoughtless parroting of a sound bite from the corporation’s marketing campaign—a campaign so effective that Synthroid eventually became the third most-prescribed drug in the U.S.

In my view, the doctors who parroted the Synthroid marketing hype should feel shame; they allowed themselves to be duped by a sales campaign for a product that was—and still is!—no more reliable than any other thyroid hormone product. In previous publications, I have cited the FDA evidence for Synthroid’s lack of reliability".

Thankfully NDT has brought relief for many but they have to buy it themselves and some cannot do so as it is not available in some countries.

[Girlslovescifi in reply to shaws]

Let's face it - pharmaceutical companies are downright evil. Together with oil companies. As long as the shareholders are happy...😡

[2pence]

I have previously wondered about the Queen as I have read that her doctor in Scotland is Dr Toft. Recently I found and read the plans for when she dies (I think it came up because of the meeting called re Prince Phillip's standing down) and the doctor in charge in London is a gastroenterologist. I think that there is a lot we don't know about how they are medicated or the things they suffer from. Endos wouldn't like it known that someone like the queen was on NDT would they.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to 2pence]

Toft is not exactly a fan of desiccated thyroid!

Dr. Toft is quite wrong to suggest that there is “no place for animal thyroid extract.”

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/About_...

Of course, it is possible that there is one opinion for the queen, and another for the rest of us.

My suspicion is that someone, somewhere said "If the queen took Armour..." and that got mis-remembered, mis-reported and relayed. (Not meaning to blame anyone - these things happen.)