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Hi

I have just purchased some ThyroGold from US, as I feel my T3 is a bit low.

Is anyone else taking this med and if so how are you taking it? Have you noticed any change?

I am currently on 100mcg of levothyroxine, should I take the ThyroGold with the Levo or instead of?

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steviecat

Hi, Ali. First thing to say is, I am fairly new here myself, but it's a pretty swift learning curve once you bed-in :-) OK. So I take Thyro-Gold - been on it for about 3 months. I was on Levo before, and I supose I might have eventually been good on it, but I read a lot about an amazing bloke called, Dr John Lowe who was a pioneer in the business of Thyroid-related problems. Before his untimely death, he formulated the afore-mentioned Thyro-Gold. (Which you probably already know) Anyway, I thought I'd give it a go. I purchased the 150mg caps because I was on a low dose of Levo (50mcg) My test results on Levo were not good and, I guess I would have been upped if I'd continued with it.

There was no absolute reason for me to go down the NDT route, I just liked the idea of it - taking matters into my own hands, I guess. Thyro-Gold is pretty potent - take care with it. Within a matter of a few weeks, my numbers were fab - almost, almost too good. I have to be careful because my doc got a bit worried when he saw my TSH was almost, but not quite supressed. (He believes I'm on Levo). (I wonder if he's suspicious... After all, fabby numbers on Levo - and me with hashimoto's - must have looked a bit like a miracle...).

This was my regime to start with: I stopped Levo for two weeks. Note: I only did this because I wanted my definitive numbers before I started Thyro-Gold. (I am not advocating this for you or anyone). Then, I introduced half a cap of TG per day for two weeks. After two weeks, I introduced the other half. This must be done slowly! After about 6 weeks, I got my TSH, Free T4 and Free T3 done again. They were, as I have said, a tad too good, so I dropped back to three-quarters of a cap per day in one dose. (I am thinking about trying two doses per day at half-a cap, but it is a bit of an experiment this self-medicating...)

TG has the full spectrum of hormones, so, please take it slowly and carefully. It would seem quite easy to go over on the T3 and under on the TSH.

Obviously, you will observe the normal protocol... Take on empty stomach with water only. No food for an hour after.

It is very easy to open the caps and divide the powder in two. I did it on a plate using a knife to divide it up. You can then scoop up half into the empty cap and take the remaining powder on a wet finger, washing it down with water. (Now I'm on three-quarters, I shake the powder down in the cap, carefully open it and tip about a quarter into one end of the cap. I pour the contents of the other end into my mouth, then I put the cap back together).

I believe a 150mg cap of TG is the equivallent of about 1 and a quarter grains. If you're in the UK that may be around 100mcg of Levo, given T3 is 3 or 4 times more potent (is that the right word) than T4 - but don't quote me...

Hope some of this helps :-) Good luck!

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steviecat in reply to steviecat

Forgot to say - and I am no expert - Levo and a cap of TG would take you way over your current doseage of 100mcg of Levo. It's one or the other, I feel.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to steviecat

You've given an excellent response and I'm glad you're doing well. I have just posted a long interview with Dr Mercola and John Lowe and it's quite brilliant.

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steviecat in reply to shaws

Yes, I've seen that, Shaws. Everyone who has any influence at all should see it...

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shawsAdministrator in reply to steviecat

I've just listened to the last bit and assume why doctors love the TSH blood test and I do wonder how many are taken in the UK annually. Worldwide?

Apparently Abbot Labs in the USA, who make the Thyroid Blood tests gave to the Endocrinology $1,000,000 often to use for training for unrestricted purposes.!

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steviecat in reply to shaws

Why does that not surprise me? ;-)

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A really interesting answer! I have been considering Thyro Gold myself...the only thing that makes me hesitate a bit is that it contains bovine thyroid, not porcine, and porcine thyroid is said to be closer to human chemistry than bovine...but it does seem to be a great product, and it's obvious that the late Dr. Lowe knew what he was doing...some say it's an expensive product but, given the price of Armour and Erfa (at least in Belgium), that would not be an issue for me...please let us know how you're doing on Thyro Gold, as I'd be interested in trying it out myself at some point!

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PS. What I really mean is: is there anything to indicate that bovine thyroid is inferior to porcine??? After all the problems with prescription porcine thyroid (Armour, Erfa, Naturethroid) in recent years, maybe bovine thyroid is the way to go...? After all, most if not all adrenal cortex and adrenal extract products seem to be bovine in origin, not porcine...

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steviecat in reply to

Well, Anna - way I looked at it was: if John Lowe formulated it, he must have been pretty confident :-)

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Yes, that is what I tell myself as well:-) Best of luck!

Anna

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shawsAdministrator

I'd take it alone as it contains all of the thyroid hormones and you wont have an idea if or why you are improving if you take levo with it. Good luck.

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Ali8655

Thanks both. I will definitely search for the interview as that sounds like it will be very informative.

I've googled Thyro-Gold and there's a blog by Paul Jones who converts Thyro-Gold as 100mcg of T4 (aka levothyroxine) = 150 mcg of Thyro-Gold. So going by this I should be okay with 1 tablet of Thyro-Gold a day instead of the levothyroxine.

I will try this till they run out and will have to revise as they work out quite expensive - I'm from the UK.

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steviecat in reply to Ali8655

That's 150 'mg' of TG, Ali.

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Ali8655 in reply to steviecat

Sorry stevicat, you're right it is 150mg if Thyro-gold.

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steviecat in reply to Ali8655

Ali. Yes, it is expensive, but you and I are/will be on, 1 cap per day. They will only ship 2 bottles internationally, so that equates to 180 caps - six month's worth for around £95 - not too much to be well, I reckon :-)

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Ktmarie in reply to Ali8655

Just curious, did you start taking the TG? How's it going?

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Ali8655 in reply to Ktmarie

Hi Ktmarie

Been on TG a couple of months now. I think I'm one of the lucky UAT and Hashimoto people and don't have a lot of problems, except the weight issue, so haven't noticed any difference. I'll finish what I have but don't think I'll buy any more and go back in levothyroxine.

I think it's worth trying tosee how you get on with it, cos everyone's journey is different.

Good luck, Ali

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Ktmarie in reply to Ali8655

Thanks for responding. Glad to hear you don't really have the other symptoms. I almost feel worse on levo than before starting it so I'm willing to try anything. I just ordered TG and can't wait to try it. Good luck with your switch back.

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Kitti1

Wow steviecat that was a wonderfully informative answer. I m just about to start introducing t3 and didn't really know much about ThyroGold. But after reading that, if t3 with levo doesn't work four me. Then Id feel confident to give it a go. You should be on commission lol 👍

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steviecat

Chance would be a fine thing, Kitti :-)

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shawsAdministrator

I cannot find it at present but the definitely make some money :-

startribune.com/up-next-for...

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shawsAdministrator

This is the one I posted.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

in reply to shaws

Hi shaws haven't been on much in recent months. Just looking at OTC thyroid posts, as needing to tweak my meds, and came across this reply and link that you posted - Dr Mercola's interview with Dr Lowe. Makes for bittersweet reading and truly highlights the ignorance of too many of todays medics both in terms of the treatment of fibromyalgia / ME /CFS and thyroid diseases. Worth another airing, don't you think? ;)

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shawsAdministrator in reply to

You can Post it so that it can be looked upon by fresh eyes if you wish.

Sorry if I've confused you by stating Dr. Kendrick but he has picked up the cudgel of hypo and The following might be helpful and there are three posts of advice by Dr L if you haven't read them:-

Chapter 2

tinyurl.com/ya5blrr2

Chapter 3

tinyurl.com/y7ejh9sh

Chapter 7

tinyurl.com/ycxpz565

i couldn't add the links properly so I hope copy and paste will take you to the links.

in reply to shaws

Thanks Shaws, I'll follow up on this a bit later this week.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to

As usual he explains things well. This is an extract from 1st tinyurl:-

1. Under-Regulation by Thyroid Hormone

The two most potent and common metabolism-slowing factors

are hypothyroidism and thyroid hormone resistance. If one or both

of these are causing your hypometabolism, you’ll need to undergo

safe and effective thyroid hormone therapy. (See Chapter 7.)

METABOLIC REHABILITATION

43

2. Too Little Cortisol

Having too little cortisol can cause symptoms that markedly

overlap those of too little thyroid hormone regulation. The idea that

cortisol and thyroid hormone deficiencies go hand-in-hand has

been championed by eminent physicians such as Dr. William McK.

Jefferies[104] in the U.S. and Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield in the

U.K.

[219]

If your doctor isn’t familiar with their point of view, we

strongly recommend the books each has published that deal with

the subject. In our experience, cortisol deficiency is common

among hypothyroid and thyroid hormone resistant patients, and

their full recovery depends on correcting the deficiency. (See

Chapter 8

(I don't have all Chapters - just the 3 above).

in reply to shaws

Hi Shaws

Can't believe this was 2 months ago.

So I've just got around to looking at the links you gave and thought it might be helpful to any one trying to use them that you've included them in the thread below and they work. Just scroll through the message to find them.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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shawsAdministrator

Yes Dr Kendrick is plain speaking and truthful.He was a speaker at our last Conference and he spoke about cholesterol levels (one of our common symptoms) and about the danger of statins.

We have to read and learn so much I think we coud all take a degree in 'how to treat patients sympathetically and erase their disabling symptoms' with proper hormones as individuals'.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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