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Does anyone know a reliable online source of Iranian T3. I need high dose T3 and the 'usual' source won't cut it due to expense. If anyone knows, please PM me. I am going through the usual battle- can't find a good doctor who will treat me at the right dose.

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greygoose profile image
greygoose

Why Iranian? Wouldn't Greek do?

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truthseeker136

It's cheaper. Plus I heard better than the Greek

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Davidc555 in reply to truthseeker136

Hi truthseeker136

If you find out where you can you order the Iranian T3 could you let me know ?

Best wishes

davidc555

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langdocienne

HI Truthseeker136, is it cheaper than 1euro 16 cents for a pack of 30 tabs of 25mg, I buy it from any pharmacy in Crete, doubt that it can be any cheaper than that, and it works a treat!

Can somebody tell me where I can order Greek Uni Pharma T3? GP canceled my prescriptions so I have to get T3 on my own now. Heard that Uni Pharma is good so I want to get it if possible.

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langdocienne in reply to

Hi brainfog9, I go personally, doubt that any pharmacy there will send it, they're not really set up for sending abroad, if you can take a few days hol there, and stock up, well worth it, holiday, and health!!

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truthseeker136 in reply to

Why did your prescriptions get canceled?

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I don't know, he just said I can't get it on NHS anymore. But never mind, I bought it online, it wasn't expensive. Most important to me now is that I don't have to stop with T3.

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Angus1

Hi Truthseeker136,

I have ordered from <online pharmacy> and received tablets but there 100mcg tablets, I have never used them as I prefer to get T3 from a pharmacy but at the time was having trouble getting pharmacy grade T3.

I took 150mcgs of T3 for about 1 month ie Dr Lowe's protocol, I didn't feel as well as I do now taking 60mcg, now I'm doing the Circadian rhythm T3 method, following Paul Robinsons protocol, I am taking the T3 at 5am for a wake up time of 7:15am, I take 30mcgs @ 5am then 20mcgs at 11am then 10 @ 5pm.

If you take to much T3 your metabolism slows and your body temp will drop and you will feel terrible, I experienced this first hand.

I believe you may want to test your cortisol via a saliva cortisol test, I'm only just starting Paul Robinsons method (2 months in)but I feel the best I have for years, still some room for improvement thou.

To get T3 tell the doctor you allergic to T4 that's why you take T3. In Australia it's written in the perscribing criteria for the doctors.

Anyway good luck

Angus1

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greygoose in reply to Angus1

I'm pretty sure your metabolism slows and your temperature drops when you Don't get enough T3, not when you get too much...

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truthseeker136 in reply to greygoose

Yea that's what I thought

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Angus1 in reply to greygoose

Its both to much and to little slow your metabolism as you begin to get poisoned/ toxic with larger doses, many believing they need more to feel better but in actual fact they need less. Its normally about 80 mcg's when you start getting toxic.

This is my experience with T3 and I know Paul Robinson has publish this as a common mistake people make taking T3.

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truthseeker136 in reply to Angus1

Don't u need higher doses when you build tolerance. You can gauge using BP and pulse

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Angus1 in reply to truthseeker136

You don't build a tolerance to T3 if you did as a healthy person, aged our body would convert more t4 to t3.

For t3 to work in the first place you need adequate cortisol (saliva cortisol test) sex hormone(blood test) , T3 dose ( temp, Bp and heart rate) and iron level

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jennygrigg in reply to Angus1

Hi there Angus1. My daughter is 21, tiny and still needs 150mcg of Australian t3 to feel well. I think she has some resistance issues. I feel it is best not to give a "normal" dose as each individual needs to find their own correct dose, being guided by average temps and symptoms. It is also possible that feeling unwell as you add in more t3 may well be due to intolerance rather than toxicity, Intolerance can be caused by not enough cortisol, (poor adrenal function) and low or high iron.

in reply to Angus1

You are exactly right, as I have experienced this and felt confused at that time as to go up or down with my dose. 

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Angus1 in reply to greygoose

Its very simple to lower dose slow metabolism, to high you become poisoned/toxic and that slows your metabolism, but it doesn't have to be T3 it could be anything, I have experienced this first hand and simply wanted to pass it on as it may help someone trying to get well on T3.

I find on forums people are quick to say your wrong and it drives the healthy ones away and it leaves the sick to argue amongst themselves.

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jennygrigg in reply to Angus1

I am sorry Angus1, I didn't mean to intimate that you were wrong, rather there a many possibilities and 'normal' ranges when treating the thyroid. And discussion is good because any tiny bit of information may help someone.:)

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langdocienne in reply to greygoose

Yes Greygoose totally right as I understand.

in reply to Angus1

Hello there, I'm on 40 mcg of T3, I'm not a very active person really so that dose suits. BUT Saying that t3 really is pill as you go, as I spent 3 days in Edinburgh last week weather mild and sunny and I was up and down those hills and many steep steps and never stopped, but I found I had to increase to 55 mcg as my body core temp dropped a lot and my eye lids and hands started the usual hypo puffing up. T3 was remarkable, it works fast and put my body into gear fast. I gives me stamina. It's there when it counts and really need it fast.

I always carry a thermometer and wrist band bp and pulse monitor and along with how I'm feeling, that's how I go. 😊😊

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truthseeker136 in reply to

Wrist band bp monitor? Can you tell me where I can get one?

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truthseeker136 in reply to truthseeker136

U carry a mercury thermometer with u?

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truthseeker136

Iranian is pharmacy grade as far as I know

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petalouda

ah always this fear of the t3 effects or quality. As if levothyrox was a completely safe treatment. I only know people with parallele treatment for heart arythmias and other. But doctors don't seem to worry about that.

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petalouda

also i some times used the greek it's ok but i don't think you can have it online.

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truthseeker136

Can u pm me ur source

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langdocienne in reply to truthseeker136

HI Truthseeker, I buy copious amounts each time I go to Crete.

I'm in the same situation in the U.S. Can't find a dr within my insurance that can prescribe high t3 what I need as I cannot afford to go to a naturopath dr right now. I've finally decided to take natural iodine supplementation as it seems better than the drugs for getting thyroid help. Watch this youtube, it tells you all about it. There's plenty of guidance on the web to get the proper dosage and instructions of iodine.

youtu.be/afZg2jzHuCs

Good luck!

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I watched this video, very interesting. 

I thought hashimotos sufferers could not  take iodine as its like throwing wood on the fire.

I developed hashimotos after child birth. Roller coaster

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langdocienne in reply to

HI Jobeth, agreed, haven't looked at the vid yet, but I tried to supplement with Lugols, omg felt terrible, it's no good for us, I think that it's ok for hypers though.

in reply to langdocienne

Yes, iodine definitely no good for hashimotos. So I learned. 

Never mind keep battling through. 😊

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langdocienne in reply to

HI Hidden, sorry but this is wrong, I have hypo, tried to supplement with lugols, never felt so tired and ill, it's no good for any of us, we get enough from our proper salt and foods.  We are specifically told not to take it.

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Indiaza

The Iranians are brilliant scientists trained in the U. S. and Europe, and progressive. Don't be so sure about your comments. I've been to Tehran twice--very cosmopolitan--do your research. Whatever the answer is, and I don't have it, it's intriguing, and I'm going to put one of my Iranian engineer friends with a 4.0 GPA (as usual) on it right away.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Indiaza

I'll be very interested in what you find out. (Though don't post links to on-line sources - see guideline 23.)

You are right that Iran is not quite what it might sometimes appear to be. Though I'd certainly want to know a lot more before trusting these products.

Your reference to "4.0 GPA" doesn't translate well into UK experience - I had to look it up. :-)

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Indiaza in reply to helvella

I'm sure I can find out, but I need a little bit of time. It's the end of a semester and I'm awfully busy. What's encouraging is that there even is an Iranian T3, which tells me that there is an awareness of the need there. I'll post as soon as I can.

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Indiaza in reply to helvella

I am working on it, looking into the rationale for it, the treatment, the literature and if it's published widely (I can read Persian but the literature must have made it to English, or we need to know why not), the sourcing--really important. In looking up the research hospitals, I see what I expect to see--very good ones, some of them outside of Iran in Dubai, where there is access worldwide.  I will also contact people in the States (I'm in the states) and try to understand this. I have no idea where it's distributed either, what the controls are, etc.  All very interesting. I'd never heard of it.

in reply to Indiaza

I'm sorry, I don't know where are you from from and to what religion do you belong to, but I would not call any city where women are forced to wear hijab or where there is no freedom of speech, where is a ban on many things such as satellite dishes and where religion rules "cosmopolitan".    

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Live and let live. Brainy  people from all parts of the globe.

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JellyJac

could you pm me also I am desperately trying to source some T3 that helps me as I am unable to get cytomel

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langdocienne in reply to JellyJac

HI Jacquikent, I buy loads when I go to Crete, I don't know of anywhere in Greece that sells it online, would pay you to have a hol there if you can, would certainly benefit you.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

johnpollak_,

Why do you express doubt that it exists?

In this internet era, checking its existence isn't difficult. The Iran Hormone Company is a manufacturer according to this link:

irjnm.tums.ac.ir/article_29...

(I have previously looked for it and seen various mentions around.)

I know nothing of the Iranian pharmaceutical industry but I certainly wouldn't assume anything about its standards - good or bad. Without finding out more, I also certainly wouldn't choose their products.

Simple question - why anyone would want to buy T3 from Iran?

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Because it's closer to where she's living

Clutter profile image
Clutter

Bruster, Truthseeker asked where s/he can obtain Iranian T3 so the topic is of importance to Truthseeker.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Clutter

Endorse your response Clutter.

Adding:

The forum is open to members from anywhere. The predominance of UK members is no surprise, nor the universal use of English.

There are many possible reasons for people who post here to wish to consider Iranian products.

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truthseeker136

I've given up on 'em jobeth. Seems like they don't need a reason to pick a fight.

BTW,  when people order medications online, Indian drugs are considered reliable but never Chinese, though India is far from being a developed country. I'm not going to make assumptions about Iranian T3, but i'll do tons of homework on it.

Adios folks.  

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to truthseeker136

Thanks truthseeker136 - it would be good to know about Iranian pharmaceutical products and it is often folly to make assumptions.

I was somewhat surprised when I found that so many liked the Mexican Grossman Cynomel - not the first country I'd think of for quality pharmacy. And now many seem to get decent product from around the Pacific rim - again not a traditional source.

All that against a background of one of the UK levothyroxine products losing its licence.

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langdocienne

Hi rowan-1, wonder how much they charge out of curiosity, as it's cheaper than chips there!

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Clutter in reply to langdocienne

Langdocienne,

150 x 25mcg is €40 via an online supplier.  Obviously more expensive than stocking up when you are in Greece but more affordable than making a special trip to Greece.

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langdocienne in reply to Clutter

Hi Clutter, I don't make special trips to Crete, I go spend time with my bestie lol, and have a great time, been 3 times now, going again in July for 2 weeks.  Free accomodation, I do the cooking, as they just love my cooking, and this year, one of my girls is staying with her, and her daughter, who is a friend of hers anyway, from June to September, so we will have great fun.

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Lilylampshade

did you ever find a supplier of the Iranian T3? It's my favourite, but I haven't had a source for a year or so. I'd appreciate a PM if you did find one! Thank you

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truthseeker136

Sorry for replying late but never had any luck with Iranian T3

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