I have a private prescription for Armour. Can anyone advise on where is best to get it?

[Woodhouse]

[Clarebear]

Have a look on the main TUK site here:

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/treatm...

I used Phrarmarama - they seemed to be quick service/good value, but this was over a year ago (I now get it on NHS prescription), so it would be worth shopping around. xx

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

You may care to look on the main Thyroid UK website where some suggestions and lots else reside:

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/treatm...

Rod

[Jackie]

Hi I have always found Springfield the cheapest, it is on the list.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Hello Jackie,

Nothing comes up for just Springfield, Springfield where please?

[Woodhouse in reply to Margo]

It's Springfield Pharmacy in Richmond The phone number is on the list of pharmacies in the link above.

[Jackie in reply to Margo]

Hi I phone on their special number 028 255 8096 Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri, 10 am to 12 noon. They give the price ( various to USA dollars, made by Forest, USA) ,then you post the script, pay by phone on card,by phone, then they post it out very quickly, very helpful. Also they did not run out with the shortage, as sell so much, why the price is good too.

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Thank you Jackie, that's why I probably haven't used them before, because I do not have a prescription.

[Jackie in reply to Margo]

Hi I see, tricky. I know people do buy it, but remember contains T4 and potent T3, if you do that regular tests for both essential. Personally I think it is too dangerous. If you want some info on it, you have to ask for PM`s, guide lines!You can not get it in the UK without a script

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Sorry, don't understand "PM's guide lines, what does PM stand for?

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to Margo]

PM = Private Messages between members

Guidelines = see top right of page:

Thyroid UK Guidelines

Do not post advertisements, links or information of any sort whatsoever, on where or how to obtain UK prescription only medications without prescription.

Rod

[Margo in reply to helvella]

Yes, thank you I have already been told.

Sorry again, not feeling very well today, so brain not functioning at all.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to Margo]

No problem

- others may have the same question, so will leave response there to help them.

Rod

[Jackie in reply to Margo]

Margo,

Sorry I guess, you know now! I know some GP`s will give private scripts for NDT ( armour ) etc, if they are not willing to prescribe, mine will do neither. I have a private Endo ,who does. Some GP`s will also monitor your treatment, blood tests if you obtain it, mine does not as not "on the list".Just a thought , have you tried Levo + T3, if FT3 low, or feel ill, it helps lower the TSH and also helps symptoms + especially weight. Most GP`s will supply that and Endo`s mostly like T4 ( Levo) and T3 first choice ( after bloods for them)I only take NDT because allergic to Levo.

I hope you find something that helps you.

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Thanks Jackie, have been following Dr. P's protocol. Was on Levo', that made me ill, I went on Armour, and that didn't do the job as i was not converting, so then went on to T3. However, T3 has definintely made a difference, but because I have no thyroid, was reading on this forum about somebody suggesting Armour because it contains T1, T2 T3, calcitoniin etc. My thought was to add a little Armour to the 60 mcg of T3 I am already on.

[Jackie in reply to Margo]

Hi Margo, make sure you have a test, TSH, T4 and Free T3 first. I know he will be able to access it for you. However, I was overdosed by a private doctor ( Not Dr. P ) years ago, by insuffient tests,Hyper symptoms can be the same as Hypo, so no other way of knowing. it made me very ill which is why now, I am extremely cautious.Have you had all the other related autoimmune hormonal tests that have similar symptoms and an Endo does automatically? They can make a huge difference, Glucose, ferritin/iron ( needs to be high in range) an,B12 + foliates ( needs to be high in range)Also vit D ( hormonal too) if low, corrected calcium before treatment with vit D, as it can cause the corrected calcium to go over range, re test both 3 months after starting.then has to be stopped, if over range, an electrolyte. I only ask ,as until I saw my Endo , none of these were tested either.They made such a difference to my treatment.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Thanks for the info Jackie, I have B12 injections every 4 weeks, and at last bloods the vits' were optimum, but some of the tests you mention have not been done. I see my Endo' in a couple of months, will note what you have said, and ask for them to be tested. I don't like to say too much, as I had a real struggle for him to put me on T3, I asked it to be upped to 80 mcg, and have only just upped today to 70 mcg from 60mcg. I know some people on this site take very large doses, I don't know what the average is, but I am not a big girl, I weigh 9st and 5'4" so it could be a case of over-dosing. It is so hard to fatham as my temps are very low in the 35c bracke, and I am so very tired.

Thank you.

[Jackie in reply to Margo]

Hi 60mcg to me sounds about right, I also am small, 5 foot, a very good doc told me years ago that small people often do not need as much meds. Make sure your bloods are OK, especially FT3 crucial.T3 can be dangerous to the heart in overdoses.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Margo in reply to Jackie]

Noted. Thank you Jackie

[Heloise in reply to Margo]

Margo, I think the conversion of T4 to T3 takes places in the liver so, if true, it probably makes little difference about the thyroid gland itself.

[Margo in reply to Heloise]

Thanks Heloise.

[Heloise in reply to Jackie]

Jackie, why do you say potent? There is so little in the 30 or half grain or even the full grain. Do you feel ANY T3 might be too much for hypothyroid patients? Don't let the feelings of medicals brush off on you. I think the problem is there is too much T4 in Armour and not the other way around.

[Jackie in reply to Heloise]

Hi Heloise, I am sorry if a I was not clear. I meant the total T taken ,I any form. There used to be no T3, because of that, I was overdosed on armour, it was the T3 content that made me very ill. Now under my Endo, I have 2 grains armour and 20mcg T3, which perfect for me That i why the FT3 is considered so important by my Endo and me.. it is over range for FT3, I was talking about it. It is a wonderful drug and certainly helps me.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Heloise in reply to Jackie]

Whew, Jackie, I'm relieved. Your answers have been so helpful to so many people, (I don't know how you do it) but I'm so glad you take the time to do it. It must be all that T3! You're a little dynamo!

[Jackie in reply to Heloise]

Hi I trust try, so many mistakes docs have made with me, if I can prevent a few people going through it, then I must try.

Jackie x

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pHARmarama are good and offered the best price since it incl delivery to your door

[Woodhouse]

Thanks Have just ordered with Springfield as they had smaller tablets available. Also they were happy to take a scanned prescription and send to me overnight so faster.

[marg54]

Jackie whatsca private endo sorry if I come across thick

[Jackie in reply to marg54]

Marg, Hi lucky you, I wish I did not need to know! A private Endo, like any private consultant ( not doctor) works in the NHS or is retired from NHS , in that speciality and sees patients who wish to privately. Normally, unlike private docs, after a compulsory referral ( GMC) then they expect and ask GP to prescribe under them , this is safety ( cheaper for patent too) if asked , and self funding they will also ask GP to do all the tests they want, when they want, bloods,scans etc. This means you may , if wish, just pay for consultations, laid down price, more for Profs. This is common as any way consultants do not make any money out of tests , drugs etc, You can ,also without any difficulty have a referral from the GP, to any one in the country, who you wish to choose, Main difference, treat you as intellegent, have time to listen and explain. ( even if dyslexic and cannot spell!)

I hope that helps ,I, think worth every penny. If private insurance ( I have ) they only pay for a little while for chronic conditions, however, good the policy, so you end up self funding anyway after a few consultations,

I hope that helps. Not sure if you clicked on "reply to this" as only just found the question. if you want to know further, feel free to ask.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[marg54]

Thanks I will look into that take care xxxx

[dwsmith]

Hi I get mine from Tollesbury Pharmacy the number is 01621 860 511 great service.

[dwsmith]

I get mine from Tollesbury Pharmacy the number is 01621 860 511 Great service