Pain after sleeping

[VWCC]

I wake up in with pain and nausea in my abdomen every day until I get up and move around. It eases then but never disappears completely. Also if I’m sitting or lying on settee it always feels like I’ve got something lumpy or uncomfortable under my back It’s so depressing anyone got any tips. Best wishes to u all.

[Linley]

Have been diagnosed of Ibs by having the elimination tests with your Doc?

[VWCC in reply to Linley]

I am going to be properly diagnosed next week I’ve self diagnosed so far with my mate who’s a gp confirming it but I’ll let u know results thanks budd

[Linley in reply to VWCC]

OK get back to us on this forum when you know what you are dealing with. Hope all goes well

[xjrs]

I agree with Linley in that you need some tests via your GP if not done so already.

Your symptoms sound similar to what I had. I used to wake anywhere from 2am with severe lower back pain which used to resolve on standing. I was also intolerant to lots of foods. After lots of tests I was diagnosed with visceral hypersensitivity. For me the pain was actually coming from my intestines and I could feel the gases moving around. You may be suffering from visceral hypersensitivity (functional abdominal pain) - there is info about it here:

iffgd.org/lower-gi-disorder...

It is where the brain interprets the normal activity of the bowel as pain - this is due to a wearing down of neurons in pain control centres of the brain which can be caused by PTSD, neglect or abuse in childhood, extreme stressful events etc. The first line treatment is nerve pain agents such as low dose amitriptyline. There is a theory that being on something like amitriptyline for 6-12 months can help the pain control centre neurons to regenerate. Note that amitriptyline can cause constipation, but this can be helpful in people who are diarrhea dominant. Unfortunately I couldn't tolerate these. Linaclotide for IBS-C & Alflorex probiotic have helped me with this intestinal pain.

Since being on Alflorex I have been able to tolerate far more foods. It helps to balance gut bugs towards the good guys - when bad bugs have the upper hand certain foods (FODMAPs) feed them and can cause symptoms such as pain too.

You may also find assistance with anti-spasmodic medication such as mebeverine (Colofac) if you are more loose or enteric coated peppermint, which is meant to be soothing on the gut.

You can find some info on self management of IBS here:

theibsnetwork.org/the-self-...

[VWCC in reply to xjrs]

Thank you for message I will take on board all of this and also book an appointment I’ve pretty much self diagnosed but my mate is a doc and he’s confirmed it. But I will go for tests cheers for advice though

[Iesgobdafydd]

As others have said, seeing a GP to get the tests done that they can do is your first port of call. If none of the tests finds anything wrong, they'll do their best to work out what you have based on symptoms, and IBS is just the name for a pattern of symptoms, with no single cause. If your GP thinks you have IBS, they'll probably tell you to try a low FODMAP diet. That does help a lot of people with IBS, but there are also a significant proportion of people it doesn't help, or doesn't help much. It's definitely worth trying if you have IBS, and will probably start helping noticeably within a reasonably short amount of time if it's going to - weeks not months or years.

It's worth thinking about whether you believe stress could be causing your symptoms, because stress is a major cause of IBS. There are lots of things you can do to reduce stress in your life, treat the symptoms, and try to adapt the way you handle it, if you think it's contributing to your health problems. Some people find their IBS gets worse in an obvious way when they are more stressed, so for them it's a no-brainer.

Many people with IBS find probiotics helpful, but many also don't, and people tend to find some brands work for them and others (even when they come recommended by other sufferers) don't work for them.

My IBS was caused by TMJD - following repeated injuries and surgery on a front tooth, my connective tissue became distorted and was causing aches and pains, particularly in my gut and back, and fatigue and various other symptoms including gas and loss of appetite, which my GP diagnosed as IBS. I thought it may be worth mentioning this to you as a possible cause of IBS because it is relatively little known among doctors and IBS patients, and because you mentioned your symptoms worsening overnight and being eased by getting up and moving around, also the feeling of lumpiness in your back when you sit or lie. I imagine there would likely be more than one possible cause of symptoms like those, but it is somewhat reminiscent of my own symptoms. I got so I was finding it hard to get comfortable sleeping on my side - if I put one leg on top of the other it felt all knobbly and tight, and if I put it in front of the other it wasn't comfortable either. The only way I could make it work was to put a pillow between my knees. I've been working on sorting out my connective tissue for about a year and a half now - it's not fixed, I still have pain and fatigue, but the IBS is pretty much gone and various minor symptoms I didn't even realize weren't just aging have cleared up, and I can sleep comfortably in all the positions I used to. Typically, TMJD is something that affects people in their jaw or shoulder, but in my case the connective tissue throughout my body was affected, and I have read that IBS and TMJD are known to co-occur, so I doubt I am unique in this.

The bottom line is that IBS is a rather unsatisfactory diagnosis, with no single cause and no single cure, but at least it's not life-threatening, and if you keep looking for answers to what's caused it and how to fix it, there are a lot of different things you can try that have helped other people, and there's a very good chance you can at least get it under control and if you're lucky and persistent, you may be able to cure it or put it into permanent remission. It is depressing!! but there is hope.

[VWCC]

Yes this seems to be what everyone says I’ll get this diagnosis done and come back thanks for your reply and time