Covid

Hello ladies,

Just thought I'd share this as I know it's an added concern to all of us.

[Paigeparker]

If I'm understanding correctly, those with solid tumors have a better ability to fight off Covid than those with blood cancer?

[Hidden in reply to Paigeparker]

According to their research that does appear to be what they are saying. In UK I see that group 4 for the vaccine does include those with blood cancers so this would correspond with those findings.

[Paigeparker in reply to Hidden]

Thanks! Just making sure I read that right, haha. It surely is an interesting discovery. I know there's even research being done about Covid antibodies might be able to be used to fight cancer too.

[viennagirl in reply to Paigeparker]

Thanks for the info. Hope those rumors are true! Hugs Vienna

[BluHydrangea]

Thanks for posting!

[Andersl]

Thank you for sharing

[Lulu4545]

Hi to all,Very interesting.

Yet, I believe it's more the treatments we're on that can weaken our system and maybe make it tough to fight covid...

What do you think?

Take care

Lucie

[Hidden]

Hi LucieYou are absolutely right, I thought the same thing. I'm not familiar with all treatments and what effects they have on the immune system. Again in the group 4 for covid vaccine, as well as blood cancers it did specify those currently on chemo and radiotherapy which would suggest the belief that you are more compromised on these treatments compared to others? That's my interpretation of ot, could be way off!

[mariootsi]

It really is a concern.

[blms]

Which vaccine have these cancer patient’s been given? mRNA or virus?

[Hidden in reply to blms]

This research refers to immune response to covid 19 not vaccines.

[blms]

Well that is more comforting

[Hazelgreen]

Thanks very much, cazlav, for bringing this to our attention. I read the research summary at the site, and am copying it here for those of you interested. I found it quite reassuring!

"A study funded by Cancer Research UK shows that the immune response to COVID-19 is the same in people with solid tumours compared to those without cancer.

However, blood cancer patients varied in their ability to respond to the virus, with many unable to shake off the virus for up to 90 days after the first signs of infection – around 5 times longer than the average.

Due to the importance of sharing findings related to the pandemic, the publication has been fast-tracked online as a preprint* in Cancer Cell(link is external) today** (Tuesday). The study gives reassurance to many people with cancer, but also highlight that patients cannot be grouped together when it comes to delivering cancer care during the pandemic.

The COVID-19 pandemic has led to many challenges for people with cancer, including decisions around shielding and delaying treatment. There is also conflicting evidence around COVID-19 having a more detrimental effect on those with cancer, and there is little insight into how cancer patients’ immune systems respond to the virus.

Researchers led by Dr Sheeba Irshad, a Cancer Research UK clinician scientist based at King’s College London, in collaboration with Professor Adrian Hayday and Dr Piers Patten (Consultant Haematologist) wanted to address two key questions: 1) Does the immune response to COVID-19 in cancer patients differ to those without cancer; and 2) What is the long-term impact of COVID-19 on the immune system in people with cancer.

The study analysed the blood of 76 cancer patients: 41 of them had COVID-19, and 35 had not been exposed to the virus***. The samples were compared to the blood of people who didn’t have cancer, and who had already been recruited to the previously published COVID-IP study led by Professor Adrian Hayday****. Of the 41 people with cancer, 23 had solid tumours, and 18 had blood cancer.

Immune responses to the virus in people with solid tumours were like those of people without cancer. This was the case even where patients were in the advanced stages of cancer and were undergoing active anti-cancer treatments. Both groups were able to mount a strong immune response to the initial COVID-19 infection, and subsequently developed high levels of antibodies to clear the virus from their systems.

This study was the first to show that high levels of COVID-19 antibodies are sustained long-term in patients with solid tumours — up to 78 days after exposure to the virus. The study also found that once patients had recovered from COVID-19, their immune systems returned to ‘normal’, pre-COVID functioning.

The immune response to COVID-19 in people with certain types of blood cancer was similar but “milder” in the active/early phases of the disease and became stronger over time resembling immune changes often seen in chronic infections. This was especially true for cancers affecting B cells: a type of immune cell that plays an important role in immune memory.

In patients with B cell-related blood cancers, the antibody response to the virus was more diverse compared to people with solid tumours and presented as three distinct groups: 1) those who developed antibodies and cleared the virus like the solid cancer patients and people without cancer; 2) those who never developed antibodies even >75 days after virus exposure and continued to fail to clear the virus; and finally, 3) those who despite having developed antibodies against the virus were unable to clear it.

The next phase of the SOAP study will be monitoring the immune responses of cancer patients to the COVID-19 vaccine.

Dr Sheeba Irshad, a Cancer Research UK clinician scientist based at King’s College London, said: “Whilst we need to maintain caution, our study provides some confidence and reassurance to care providers that many of our patients with solid cancers will mount a good immune response against the virus, develop antibodies that last and hopefully resume their cancer treatment as soon as possible.

“These conclusions imply that many patients despite being on immunosuppressive therapies will respond satisfactorily to COVID-19 vaccines. For patients with blood cancers, especially those with B-cell malignancies, this may not hold true even in the era of COVID-19 vaccines. Our work suggests that they may be susceptible to persistent infection despite developing antibodies, so the next stage of our study will focus on monitoring their response to the vaccines. At present the best way to protect them may be to vaccinate all the carers to achieve herd immunity in the clinic."