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I have been told if I pull out I will be charged £1,200 plus VAT

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I have just been told that if I back out now I will be charged £1,200 plus VAT as the tenant was due to move in on Friday but no Tenancy had been signed yet

They are using bullying tactics to make me agree to something I do not wish to do

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bobbybobbAmbassador

How can this be when no tenancy documentation has been signed or agreement reached. Is there a body the letting agency can be reported to, this doesn't sound right Roukaya.🌸🌼

in reply to bobbybobb

They're just trying to bully her and my advice is stick to what you decided and tell them the decision is made and that's that and where they can stick their threats as they are just trying to bully!

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Roukaya in reply to bobbybobb

Good Afternoon

I agreed the tenant could move in on Friday subject to satisfactory references

Her references have come in acceptable and she has offered to pay me £350 towards the bedroom furniture if she leaves

It is most likely I will agree but it is a risk I am taking

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Roukaya in reply to bobbybobb

Good Afternoon

Her references have come in as acceptable and she has offered to pay £350 towards the bedroom furniture

I also realise I am taking a risk but there is no break clause for this to give her security of tenure

It is a risk I will take and I will see if I can get rent guarantee insurance in place on Friday

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bobbybobbAmbassador in reply to Roukaya

Only do what you are happy doing and don't feel bullied into anything. xx

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Roukaya in reply to bobbybobb

Thank you for reply

This rental flat is my main income but I was concerned with her demands

Her references have come in as acceptable and I have been offered £350 towards the bedroom furniture when she leaves

I have no break clause to protect her as a tenant but I will try to see if I can get a rent guarantee insurance in place if possible this Friday

If I were to withdraw I wonder when I would get a tenant next

It has been a difficult decision for me to reach

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bobbybobbAmbassador in reply to Roukaya

You have had some very difficult decisions to make this week and I feel you are still unsure about them. How do you know she will give you this money when she leaves. Who will guarantee you will not be out of pocket. I just hope everything works out for you and you don't end up with any problems. xx

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Roukaya in reply to bobbybobb

Good Afternoon

I hope you are well

I have a written statement given to me by email that she will pay me £350 towards the bedroom furniture when she leaves

My concern has been there is no break clause for 30 months as this gives the tenant a security of tenure

I will see if it is possible for me to have a rent guarantee insurance in place on Friday

I am also thinking as there are many properties empty with reduced rent I thought to have an income as I am reliant on my savings

Thank you for your reply

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MaggieSylvie in reply to Roukaya

It is normal to charge a deposit on rentals, from which you can, if necessary, make deductions at the end of the tenancy. Isn't the agent even doing this for you?

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Roukaya in reply to MaggieSylvie

Good morning

How are you

Thank you for your reply

I had a very difficult experience yesterday

I had to decide whether to accept or decline a tenant whose references came out as satisfactory due to her demands of removing my bedroom furniture

Initially I had agreed to the offer then tried to pull out because of the removal of my bedroom furniture

But even if I pulled out I would have the worry of paying the agent £1440 fee for declining an offer and having to find another willing tenant

I think I saw a very aggressive side of the Agent yesterday and I was very close to pulling out but to me if a tenant has agreed with good references and as I am currently reliant on my savings I thought it would make sense to give her a tenancy

I realise the economic uncertainty of this Pandemic can bring out the worst and I can see the aggression of business if they stand to lose income

I hope you are keeping well

How are your food deliveries

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MaggieSylvie in reply to Roukaya

Good morning, Roukaya,

Things much the same here. Had a Tesco delivery yesterday evening. One item wasn't available and I was annoyed that they couldn't have let me know before delivering, as it was part of a number of items my partner wanted for making icecream. The special offer strawberries were not ripe. Already started my list for next week at Sainsbury's - much better.

But getting back to your problem, which you have now resolved after a fashion - if you charged a deposit, you would not need to worry about the tenant not paying you the measly sum she offered for your furniture. I think if this tenant gives you any problems during the term of the tenancy, I think you would probably have legal backing to end the tenancy if you wanted to. Hope it all works out - only time will tell.

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Roukaya in reply to MaggieSylvie

Good morning

I hope you are well

During Lock Down I would order on line food with Tesco

They have an excellent service but sometimes there were substitutions

I hope you get a better delivery with Sainsbury’s

Yesterday was exhaustive mentally and given the fact she has passed her references I decided to accept the tenant

But there is no break clause to end the Tenancy with the Tenancy term as it is for 30 months

Only if she does something very wrong such as non payment of rent can I take legal recourse

But what I have learnt is How Estate agents or anything to do with money can provoke aggressive

It is like who are you to talk

I am the owner but I had to say because I talk like a child and clearly lack confidence people think they can easily walk over me and discard my opinion

This is something I need to work on

Why I have such chronic lack of confidence which is visible to others

Today I will sign the Tenancy Agreement and tomorrow the tenant due to move in

I knew I was not in the right frame of mind to sign any agreement yesterday

I have been with this agent for three years but saw their aggression yesterday in the event I wished to pull out

This is why all these years I never succeeded in a legal career

Though I passed all my exams that door did not open due to the lack of confidence which does not install belief in clients that I can resolve their issues

I hope you are ok abs I hope your husband is ok

I am amazed at times as to how we are continuing challenged in life

If nothing is in writing, then tell them that they can charge you what they like, as you will not be paying. I would also add; if they have such an attitude as this- you really need to bin them.

in reply to john6

Some of these letting agents are really horrible and once they had tried to threaten me and I told them where to go with their threats!

That's a good idea to find a better one as there are some good ones around and also a good idea to tell them to charge what they like and to get stuffed!

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Roukaya in reply to john6

Thanks for your reply

The references of the tenant have come as acceptable and she has agreed to pay £350 towards the bedroom furniture

I am concerned as to how she will behave but this can apply to any tenant

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john6 in reply to Roukaya

To have a concern as to how a tenant would behave at such an early stage should be ringing alarm bells. If your gut reaction is worrying you - it should be no. I have leased property in the past, as such you have to feel happy/comfortable that the new tenant is the right one, otherwise you will bring anxiety into your life.

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Roukaya in reply to john6

The agent has explained that I agreed to remove my bedroom furniture and accept her offer .

If I withdraw I am to pay £1,440 cancellation fee

She has offered to pay me £350 towards bedroom furniture when she lives

It is a difficult decision I have made as if I say no it could be a long time until I find a new tenant as every week the rentals of properties are coming down

Don’t sign anything unless you are absolutely sure Roukaya ,

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Roukaya in reply to

I hope you are well

The agent I expect has rushed the move in date for Friday

Her references have come in as satisfactory and she has offered to pay £350 for the bedroom furniture once she leaves

Good Afternoon

I hope you are well

It would seem the agent has agreed for the tenant to move in on Friday

She has agreed to pay £350 towards the bedroom furniture when she leaves

Midori profile image
MidoriVisually impaired

Remove your flat from them pretty darned quickly. I believe that they can only charge their 'finder's fee' once a contract has been signed.

I think they are bullying you. The whole thing sounds really fishy to me. They are your Agents, you are within your rights to change them at any time.

Cheers, Midori

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Roukaya in reply to Midori

Good morning

I hope you are well

I had signed a letter of appointment with them and if I rejected an offer which has passed its references I would be charged £1,440

Even if I walked away and paid the penalty fee , I would still need to find a tenant as this is my main income

In the end I carefully weighed up the pros and cons of walking away knowing that these economic conditions are not the same as before

It could be weeks or months before I find another willing tenant

I hope you can understand my reasoning

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MidoriVisually impaired in reply to Roukaya

Yes, I can understand that.

cheers, midori

Personally I would have gone for a six month shorthold tenancy, it would have given you a chance to see as to how they will behave/treat the property - a 30 month agreement is not the norm. I would also treat with caution that the tenant is going to give you £350 "When they leave, to try and get it when they leave could mean you have to go to court and incur costs in doing so"! As a gesture of goodwill that money should be paid [now], I would also make sure that the [bond] is deposited correctly and in full. I really do not like the sound of your letting agent or the way that they are dealing with this.

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Roukaya in reply to john6

Good morning

I hope you are well

I would like to explain that I had tried to obtain a 30 month contract with a break clause and the tenant insisted that it would be a 30 month contract without a break clause to give her security of tenure

I have sought the advice of many and as she has come with good references and the fact the Agent able to find a tenant in this current climate is something I had to think of before rejecting both

I have taken a risk I admit this but I have given tenancies of 18 months without a break clause as well

But I am trying to get rent guarantee insurance

I know this has caused me anxiety and I appreciate your view point but in this current economic climate the flat could stay empty for weeks and months

I have it in writing the tenant will pay the £350 from her Deposit

But I fully agree with what you have said but as I am not working this is my main income

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