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I'm booked in for a shingles vaccination in 9dys time but need to book a covid vaccination too.I'm assuming that because I'll need Shingrix, that'll be two jabs? If so, do I need to leave time between either of those and the covid one.

I had thought of having the covid jab this week if possible.

Any advice/thoughts greatly received.

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PMRpro profile image
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No idea. A lot of doctors happily give 2 vaccines on the same day - children will get 3 or more. Personally I prefer a week at least between so if there is a reaction I know which did it! The space between the SHingrix jabs is anything from 1 to 6 months so plenty of leeway there.

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Kendrew in reply toPMRpro

Thanks Pro.Appreciate your prompt reply.

123-go profile image
123-go in reply toPMRpro

Agree.

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

As said, at least a week between vaccines…I’ve left 2 weeks between my flu one and Covid [tomorrow].

Kendrew profile image
Kendrew in reply toDorsetLady

Thankyou DL.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toKendrew

Don’t forget the paracetamol afterwards…😊

Kendrew profile image
Kendrew in reply toDorsetLady

Thankyou..... I won't. ❤

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Gimme in reply toDorsetLady

I always take the paracetamol before I leave the house, to make sure it's already in my blood stream.

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Suffolklady

Yes I had my shingles last November but I didn’t feel too good after it but then I had my Covid quite close to it. I don’t know what one made me feel bad but this July when my 2nd shingles was due I thought I don’t want to feel so grim again so have put it off. Asked the nurse last week when she gave me my flu jab and she said second shingles not suppose to be as bad so I will get it done before the year is up. She checked on her website and it can be done up to a year later. As for Covid I’ve decided not to go for it this year.

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Phoebenooby in reply toSuffolklady

I had my first shingles one in March and the second one in September. I had read the second one can be rough so booked it when I didn’t have anything planned. Wasn’t as bad as I expected, sore arm , bit achey but ok. Had my flu one 8 days ago, not even a sore arm! I too haven’t booked the covid one m not sure why, just scared of it causing a flare. Although I haven’t had a problem with any before, and actually had flu and covid jabs together a year ago….Ihad had PMR a for 3 months but was unaware and untreated.

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Blearyeyed

Leave time between the jabs , any two vaccines , in fact.Your body needs to be able to cope with the immunity response separately, it can cause more symptoms for people with chronic health conditions.

Don't taper before it or for two weeks after the last jab because vaccines can cause additional stress and inflammation.

Hydrate well and eat light meals in the days before and week afterwards.

You also want separate vaccinations to be able to know which jab gave you an adverse reaction if you are unlucky enough to have that happen.

I generally get vaccinations two weeks apart ideally , but you could do them within 10 days if each other. I personally won't do it cluster than that based on experience.

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random901

Hi Kendrew. I'm doing the same as many in the responses - one jab at a time. Shingles X 2 (bit off colour afterwards), then flu jab (bit tired and fluey for 24 hours), then covid jab next week. 2 weeks in between all so I can identify which cause problems.

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Kendrew in reply torandom901

Thankyou for responding.

agingfeminist profile image
agingfeminist

separate them by a couple weeks..give your body recovery time between them and also distinguish the side effects of each vaccination. (my doc's advice)

Potemkin profile image
Potemkin

I've just had my Covid and flu on Friday - I've felt a bit off for a few days but not any worse than I felt when I had them before PMR. I planned a quiet weekend where I could rest and took paracetamol. I was in 2 minds about it but the thought of getting either was worse. Probably should have had them separately.

I'd forgotten about Shingles - will have a think about how to plan that in.

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Sophiestree

interesting. We are the same age and I asked for Shingrix and was told no I had to wait 4 years.

Broseley profile image
Broseley in reply toSophiestree

I'm 65 and asked for Shingrix and was told yes, I am eligible! I've had the first one.

Sophiestree profile image
Sophiestree in reply toBroseley

Yes. It's the middle bit between 65 and 70 that is the problem!

Broseley profile image
Broseley in reply toSophiestree

Do you need them annually?

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toBroseley

No -should last at least 4 years probably 7 according to NHS although the manufacturers say 10 years.

Sophiestree profile image
Sophiestree in reply toBroseley

No not annually, but I am keen as I have had shingles before and it wasn't nice.

Highlandtiger profile image
Highlandtiger in reply toSophiestree

It used to be just from 70 for everyone. It's their way of changing it gradually to end up with it being 65 for all. You've just been unlucky!

Sophiestree profile image
Sophiestree in reply toHighlandtiger

I have, I missed out by about 3 months I think. But I have a consultants phone call in a few weeks and so I was going to ask if he wouldn't mind suggesting it in the letter he sends them. I think it if comes from a consultant they will do it. But if going by the book/guidelines it's a no. And I guess I am not on high enough pred now (6mg) to warrant being in the higher category.

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Highlandtiger in reply toSophiestree

It's funny because the rules are very slightly different in Scotland than in England (no idea why) albeit both are trying to get it down to 65 gradually. I think I’d seen the English guidelines first and thought, like you, I’d just missed it. Then when I saw the Scottish guidelines I realised they were slightly different and I qualified. If I remember right in Scotland you had to be 65 as at 1 September in that particular year whereas in England you got it when you turned 65 after 1 September (I may have misremembered the detail but it was something like that). I remember thinking I wouldn’t have qualified if I’d lived in England. I got mine in January and March this year.

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Sophiestree in reply toHighlandtiger

Exactly that! I was 65 in July..... arghhh

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Highlandtiger in reply toSophiestree

Very annoying!! 😡

Sophiestree profile image
Sophiestree in reply toHighlandtiger

I will try the consultant and then leave it I suppose. They won't budge without his suggestion.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toHighlandtiger

I'm about to start the journey here to get anything I can have done while here - leaving as little as possible to the generousity or otherwise of the UK systems!!!

Pusph profile image
Pusph

I'm leaving at least a month between my covid and flu jabs and the GP surgery said I'll be called for my 2nd shingles vax approx 6 months after the 1st one.

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Broseley

I'm due to have my second shingrix in a couple of weeks. I had no reaction to the first one, arm felt bruised, that's all. However our surgery have told me they will call me to come for a combined covid and flu jab any time soon. I've already missed the first offer, as they do odd Saturdays whenever they get a batch of the vaccine in and we were away. So I don't want to miss another. Knowing sods law they'll all come the same week!

Potemkin profile image
Potemkin in reply toBroseley

Many pharmacies do a walk in service for Covid & Flu jabs and some by appointment so you don't need to wait for your surgery if you don't want to.

Broseley profile image
Broseley in reply toPotemkin

Good point. Our own pharmacy doesn't though, and I'd have to travel, park etc to go to another one. I can walk to the surgery.

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Floridafan in reply toBroseley

I had my flu jab at the local pharmacy, then a week later had my Covid jab from the doctors. I told the nurse I’d already had the flu jab and so she just administered the Covid

Broseley profile image
Broseley in reply toFloridafan

Good idea. Thanks.

Sophiestree profile image
Sophiestree in reply toBroseley

When I had two automatically booked in I just told them I only wanted the one (being flu or covid) and they were fine with it.

Broseley profile image
Broseley in reply toSophiestree

Thanks I've booked my flu jab for Thursday!

5lupins profile image
5lupins

hi, I have had RSV, shingles, covid and flu jab in a row but all with at least two weeks in between. As I also take methotrexate I have had to miss some doses.

I have never had two at once as I feel that would be unwise unless absolutely necessary. It was the second shingles jab.

Hope all goes well. Jen

Gimme profile image
Gimme

I had my covid jab yesterday and I reckon I might have survived it. Normally, I would be feeling pretty under the weather by now if it had affected me.

It is getting close to my holiday now, so after discussion with the nurse, we decided that it might be best to leave the flu jab until I get back. I don't want another bout of the deathly fatigue, like I did after the pneumonia jab, which took about 3 weeks to recover from.

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Highlandtiger in reply toGimme

I'm having mine tomorrow so I can't comment personally but just to warn you that one of my friends had it 10 days or so ago and felt absolutely fine until 4 days later when she got the fluey aches and chills. Didn't last long and she was fine the next day. So you might not be out the woods just yet!

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Gimme in reply toHighlandtiger

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. 🤣

On the other hand, maybe I should get onto all the stuff that I need to do before I go away, just in case. ;)

PMR_sufferer1 profile image
PMR_sufferer1

I would separate the 2 jabs by 2 weeks If possible. Then it reduces stress on you immune system and also allows you to know which jab caused any reactions.The shingles jab needs to be a non live vaccine I think most are in the UK but worth checking.

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toPMR_sufferer1

They are now. Shingrex in use …. And hopefully the old stocks of Zostavax have been used up.

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Bachblues in reply toDorsetLady

I asked for a shingles vax at my GP and was told that as I was on steroids (currently 10 mgm Prednisolone per day) that I couldn’t have one. From this discussion it seems like Shingrix is fine?! . I’m 70.

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Nextoneplease in reply toBachblues

I’ve had Shingrix while on over 10mg of prednisolone and so have a lot of people here 😊It was the ´old’ shingles vaccine (Zostavax) that we definitely mustn’t have. I’d contact your surgery again! Good luck x

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Bachblues in reply toNextoneplease

Very useful to have this knowldg esp same dose. Thanks.

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toBachblues

As NOP has said that was probably the old ‘live’ vaccine…Shingrix one isn’t live, so should be okay.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toBachblues

That is absolute tosh - that applied to the Zostavax shingles jab, it was not suitable for patients on pred although low doses were claimed to be OK. One of its side effects was listed at PMR so we didn't really want it anyway! However the shingrix one is OK and was released for immunecompromised patients before it was avalable for all.

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Bachblues in reply toPMRpro

Love this reply. Thanks so much!

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Bachblues in reply toDorsetLady

Thanks - I can go back and ask again with all this info.

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JCarter1155

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I had the original Shingles Vaccine and I have PMR…I went ahead with the two Shingrix afterwards..My dad, my aunt and grandmother had shingles bad…I had a remission from PMR in 2018 after 8 months of Prednisone…PMR is back..I got the Johnson and Johnson for Covid, as I was afraid of the new vaccines…I go to Mayo Clinic…I think they know certain vaccines cause PMR, but they don’t tell you…I’m once again on Prednisone…

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Bachblues in reply toJCarter1155

Thank you.

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You are entitled to express your opinion of course, so long as meets the community guidelines [ie. PMRGCAuk].

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"My wife and I got COVID twice after the first 3 vaxs, like most folks we know. Scam is a strong word "

No-one scientific EVER promised the vaccine would prevent you getting Covid - what some media claimed is another matter. Vaccines NEVER stop you getting the disease - they just mean if you do, your body is better prepared to respond to it.

I have no idea where you got those stats - they bear no resemblance to the stats I read. In the meantime, any study based on 100 patients has been supplanted with MILLIONS of subjects to look at. And NO basline study with that close a difference would be taken seriously.

And this site has absolutely NOTHING to do with Big Pharma or a CDC control agenda - the last because if nothing else, this site is based in the UK. You believe what you like but you are falling into the conspiracy theory black hole.

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jessiem in reply toPMRpro

You always give the best answers. 😀

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Gimme in reply toPMRpro

If it stops me from dying from covid, then I consider that job done. I had covid right at the very beginning of 2020, before the vaccines came out and it took me months for my breathing to recover. I've had all my vaxes since and never caught it again. I'm happy with that.

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Kendrew

With the greatest of respect, I just wish to say that if you've been on this forum for any length of time, then you will know it has a code of conduct based on honesty, respect and integrity.

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This is a support forum for PMR and GCA. Information here relates to those things and not to the information or misinformation circulating on the internet about Covid vaccines. However - as a scientist, the names you are quoting are NOT on my list of trusted sources.

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