K2 and magnesium

[Exhiker]

HI all,sorry its me again. I was thinking of taking the above. What dose should I be looking for on both and also which type of magnesium as there is different types. I understand these help with the absorption of the calcium.

[Seacat30]

I take 2 x 50 ug K2. I don't take magnesium because it makes me poop.

[Exhiker in reply to Seacat30]

thankyou for replying.

[Temoral in reply to Seacat30]

i can't take K2 for the same reason!

[PMRpro Ambassador]

Supplements usually come with directions. The recommended amount of K2 seems to be about 200mcg/day.

Not sure about magnesium and how much you take is likely to depend on what magnesium salt you choose. Some have a very laxative effect for some people. The sort I could have prescribed here for cardiac problems is awful for me. The much more expensive sort the hospital uses doesn't, however much I take.(Neither are available in the UK as far as I know). You really just have to try, If you can't find one that suits you, you can do foot baths and there are oils and sprays for topical use.

[Exhiker in reply to PMRpro]

OK, thankyou.

[piglette]

To absorb calcium, your body also needs vitamin D. I was prescribed calcium with vitamin D by my doctor. I think most of us with PMR or GCA on steroids take calcium with vitamin D.

[Exhiker in reply to piglette]

tankyou piglets, yes I take adcal but I just thought maybe additional supplements as well.

[piglette in reply to Exhiker]

vitamin D is fine.

[Exhiker in reply to piglette]

ok thankyou.

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Exhiker]

Possibly more vit D. I take 4000 IU - not the 400 IU in an AdCal

[Exhiker in reply to PMRpro]

thanky.

[Exhiker in reply to PMRpro]

cant believe that happened again. My phone, got a mind of it's own.

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Exhiker]

Hahahaha! Don't worry about it

[DorsetLady PMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Exhiker]

Trouble is once it’s accepted it, it doesn’t forget!

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to DorsetLady]

Thank goodness I have an old fashioned computer ...

[artisam in reply to Exhiker]

Oh please keep it, it makes me chuckle😂

[Exhiker in reply to artisam]

my phone seems to decide when it comes out. 🤣

[Viveka in reply to Exhiker]

Please keep saying thanky, it cracks me up. X

[Exhiker in reply to Viveka]

its not me its my phone . Definitely got a mind of its own. 🤣🤣

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Exhiker]

We'll believe you

[greengages]

I take a vit k2 oral spray just 3 sprays to inner cheek. Had no problems with this one

[Exhiker in reply to greengages]

thanky greengage, I didn't realise you could get a spray

[Exhiker]

thankyou will look for that one.

[Bothan]

Never heard of K2, am taking magnesium. Will check out K2

[Sharitone]

I take K2 MK-7, 200μg. The good thing about K2 is, it's cheap! I also take some vit D, because the amount that comes with the calcium is so small.

[Lookingforideas]

I take very high levels of Vit D3 (for my MS rather than for PMR) and a fairly small dose of vit K2 (Better You oral sprays) which is really a top up to encourage the calcium to stay in my bones rather than floating around the bloodstream and causing problems… ( that’s a very vague & over simplistic explanation as I can’t access all my info about that stuff from here - it’s in the ‘old fashioned computer at home 😊) , and I alternate between Magnesium Glycinate and Magnesium Malate capsules for various reasons, but I think it’s mainly the cheaper magnesium Citrate (which is what most of the uk supermarket type brands sell - check the type in the small print on the rear😊 ) that is the worst culprit for the laxative effects 😊. Or, as PMRpro says, you can always have a bath or foot bath with the salts in, or rub oil on if you are badly affected by the ‘poop effect’. We are all different aren’t we? But magnesium is your friend if you can find the right type and balance for you 😃

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Lookingforideas]

The most common magnesium supplements are magnesium oxide or magnesium sulphate (Epsom salts)

[Lookingforideas in reply to PMRpro]

ah sorry you’re absolutely right, I’m getting my oxide and citrate mixed up aren’t I? I don’t use either as I think i might have had ‘issues’ with both of them - hence the move to glycinate and malate - I’ve no idea what’s in the ones for the bath or the magnesium oil either, so thanks for that. Do you use these? Which would you say is best?

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Lookingforideas]

Bath ones tend to be Epsom salts. The oil is topical so unlikely to matter really. My magnesium is magnesium pidolate - as far as I can tell only sold in France and Italy!! It used to come in little bottles, the size used for injections, until there was a shortage for Covid vaccines. Now it comes in what are effectively small plastic bags! They are marginally easier to open than the bottles!

[Lookingforideas in reply to PMRpro]

wow, I’ve read about lots of different magnesium’s and about the different properties etc, but never heard pidolate mentioned anywhere- I suppose as it’s not available in the uk… thanks for the info though, it’s interesting 😃 - and a bit weird that so many counties still have different things and methods, when we (well, I)’tend to think everything is global these days.

Isn’t it a hassle using it as liquid? Or do you just squirt it into your mouth? Or rub it in? 😊

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Lookingforideas]

No, it comes as a liquid in "stick sachets" - you tear off the top and suck it out. Bit like children's yoghurt tubes. Works well - even in the middle of the night! I use it for cardiac arrythmia - if I take it as an episode is threatening, it often stops it in its tracks. Don't know why pidolate - but it seems to cause no GI issues!

[Exhiker in reply to Lookingforideas]

thankyou for your reply. Very informative.