Is it wise to avoid alcohol altogether whilst on Pred, currently on 60 mg a day or do people enjoy their fav tipple now and again ??
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ALCOHOL & PRED
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PMRproAmbassador
It probably is wise to avoid alcohol at the high doses of pred - not least because it is not going to help with the weight gain many experience with pred. Lots of carbs in some alcohol!
On the other hand, I think many of us still have the occasional drink - in my case it is more often but very small amounts. A bottle of wine lasts me all week! Many people find they lose the taste for alcohol though.
Thanks for that advice, gonna give it a go tonight first time since starting Pred 4wks ago .. just a glass or two !!
i'dstick with a glass, rather than the two! Like DL, even before pred I found there were wines, mostly red, I couldn't get on with at all, And not as much as before either. Which is probably a good thing!
Thanks PMRPro, I don't touch red wine just the white of which I've just had a glass, went down well 😊
I loved red - only the light local ones here and not too much. Very partial to an Austrian rose!!!
Isn’t that funny, I used to love red but went off it completely after taking Pred. I wonder why. I still drink white or Prosecco and can’t say I feel any different on the rare days I don’t drink alcohol.
My aversion started long before pred - so I can't blame it! I think it may be something to do with the tannins but I already avoided them because of what is probably an allergy to something in red wine!
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Tannins in red wine and tea both of which are my favourite tipples do aggravate my joints if too much is enjoyed. I switch to rosè and earl grey which seem less of an irritation.
Oh no - NOT Earl Grey!!!! Tea doesn't have the same effect thank goodness!!!!
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I know, it’s a shame as I’m a real fan of builders tea
Me too - though apparently builders complain at the description! Tea is made in a pot here, left to stew for at least half an hour. But I get 5 decent strength mugs out of one Tetley's round t-bag when I'm alone at home - use more t-bags a day when I have visitors than I use in a week. Thank goodness for microwaves ...
I love green tea
And red wine
Me too, green tea, and red wine! All things in moderation of course!!!!
Well I probably drink too much! Of the green tes
Sorry have to disagree on that one!
Which one?
EG tea ☕️
How many ounces is your glass of wine?😂
Usually too many 🥴
I used to have a glass that held a bottle ...
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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer
I stopped for first 6months -combination of high doses -2weeks@ 80mg then 8 weeks @ 60mg and sight loss -so head was not in a good place…so thought it sensible.
But did return after that, occasionally not regularly -and certainly couldn’t take red wine any more… still can’t 6 years after ending Pred.
Can’t say I noticed any discernible difference on the evenings I had a drink to those I didn’t.
I think a small drink now and then probably helps to keep you sane!
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I agree a small now and again really helps. I tend to drink a low alcohol gin & tonic which makes me feel I’m still a party girl. I only now drink Rooiboch tea, no caffeine. And earl grey I’m afraid. I also drink Green tea with Tummeric anti inflammatory I’m told.
Definitely does
Never had a problem with alcohol and pred. Read on the net you can drink with prednisolone but not prednisone. Don’t know why
Prednisone is processed by the liver to become prednisolone which is the active form. I use a form of prednisone - still drink though! No-one has said not to ...
I would never touch alcohol while taking drugs like pred or having such a serious health condition. Just not worth it for me.
I think a lot of demonising of alcohol goes on in medical circles. There are a few drugs where there is an absolute reaction with alcohol, so it must be avoided. However it is very common for patients to be told not to drink either because of their illness or their treatment. I'm pretty sure personal or religious aversions to drinking alcohol influences what patients are told. Personally I do drink, have done throughout and some weeks consume more units than is recommended. I find it a great relaxant and have not found it affects PMR. Infact if my shoulders and neck become tight and I wonder if a flare is brewing, a couple of glasses relaxes the muscles and mind and I realise it's not PMR but life's demands. I'm not advocating irresponsible drinking or alcoholism but I hate it when Drs ask if you drink, how much and then almost imply that drink is the reason I still take Pred.
My GP (in my previous practice) blamed Pred for everything until l developed a breast lump, which he said was fine but it had to be checked out. It turned out to be Breast Cancer so it was the HRT that got the blame this time - until my histology came back TNBC -(Triple Negative Breast Cancer)
Nothing to do with HRT…….
They always ‘need’ to blame something!….
I totally agree! I’ve never stopped my glass or two of wine most (not every) night with my meal. No doctor has told me not to, I’ve read the information sheets where there is no mention of it and, if we enjoy it in moderation, I don’t see it will harm us. Life is short!
Particularly since it is known that they assume you are lying - and at least double what you say you drink! My GP is one of the "all alcohol is evil" genre.
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Here here 👏
Good or bad for me, I do like a couple of glasses of wine. Responsible drinking is key.
I drink one glass, white wine or G&T, very occasionally and usually on a social occasion. Otherwise I have cut right back. I don't miss it.
Well Whl67 , I have my tipple twice a week and have never had a problem, enjoy. HARRY x
Thanks Harry will do 🍺
My former cardiologist told me daily recipe for a healthy heart is oatmeal,an apple,water,couple of squares of dark chocolate and a couple of glasses of the best red wine you can afford with a meal. I guess his best red and mine are miles apart.
I guess his best red and mine are miles apart.
More than likely -and whilst red’s not for me -I’ll go for rose or sparkling white - I do agree on the dark chocolate.
I'm in the same boat as you. I drink 8 oz red wine with dinner each evening. Its a highlight if each day. No problems at all
I don't know if its coincidence or something more significant. I'm tapering down from a flare, and decided to try giving up my nightly glass of whiskey, and a couple glasses of wine. I'm finding by not drinking the whiskey nightcap, and no red wine, just a bottle of beer. My feeling of well being has improved immensely. I stick to no more that 2 glasses of white wine. My taper is going well, I don't know if cutting out most of the alcohol is part of that or not. Before the flare I was at 5mm of Pred, and went up to 10mm to get it under control, now at 7mm. I miss my nightcap, but I feel so much better, who knows..
Canada has just come out with new guidelines for drinking alcohol which very much lower the amount deemed safe for anybody. Doesn't affect me as I drink a beer maybe six times a year, but for those who previously thought a dozen drinks a week were fine, it's going to come as a shock. Drinking alcohol has now been shown to shorten lifespan, and the previously perceived heart-healthy qualities of red wine appear not to exist. Of course no one is being told what or whether to drink, but they are thinking of putting warning labels on containers. I think the message over all, and apparently it is one already given in other countries like the UK and Australia, is people need to decide whether the drink they are about to have is worth the five minutes of life they will give up (the five minutes eventually can add up to several months). I suspect many of us would say the pleasure of a drink in the moment is worth more than the possibility of a few more days at the end of life....
theconversation.com/canadas...
“I suspect many of us would say the pleasure of a drink in the moment is worth more than the possibility of a few more days at the end of life”… reminds me of the Billy Connolly “white bread, brown bread “ routine. In short …it’s not the extra fortnight when you are 18 and loving life, it’s the extra fortnight in the old folks home.
On the other hand, there are ongoing health concerns connected to "too much" alcohol, and the point of the new guidelines is that the "safe" amount is now deemed to be much lower than it used to be. I wonder, though, how much our increased susceptibility to developing cancer, etc., is also caused by exposure to many other toxic chemicals in our environment? Maybe a tolerance for alcohol is actually lower now because we are, for example, breathing in artificial fragrances all the time? Who knows?
I have to confess I drink a couple of glasses of Prosecco every day with food. I can’t cope with G&T’s/any spirits or even straight white wine anymore which I used to love. I’m probably shortening my life quite a bit with the bubbles but I find it’s something I look forward to at the end of the day and haven’t noticed any adverse reaction with the 7/6.5 (slow taper ) I’m currently on. So good luck and cheers 🥂
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