Which vaccine?

[Griggser]

Half listening to some professor on the news yesterday I heard him say that people with a compromised immune system should have the Pfizer vaccine rather than the Oxford one. I thought he said said because the Oxford one is a live vaccine but like I said I was only half listening and wasn’t sure I heard right. Anyone have any information about this? Not sure how you would go about making sure you got the Pfizer one and at what level of steroids is the immune system compromised enough to make a difference?

[MrsNails]

Someone else has written a Post on this awaiting PMRpro’s take on it....

[Bcol in reply to MrsNails]

Everything I've re ad so far would suggest it's not a problem, but I also heard the item and am now wondering. Like you I'm awaiting her ladyships input on this.

[DorsetLady PMRGCAuk volunteer]

See this - healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk....

[Griggser in reply to DorsetLady]

Thanks Dorsetlady, this is the report I was half listening to😃

[PMRpro Ambassador]

I already put my tuppence in on the other thread:

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk....

[Griggser in reply to PMRpro]

Thanks PMRpro, my bad fir not seeing the earlier post🤪

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Griggser]

It's early ...

[Pollynolongerinagony]

hi Griggser, I posted this yesterday having seen the same BBC report as you ....FOLLOWING TODAY'S BBC NEWS BROADCAST, UNDER THE HEADING 'CORONAVIRUS ENGLAND VACCINATION.' THE FEMALE NEWS READER ASKED THEIR EXPERT 'WHO SHOULD GET WHICH VACCINE? ARE THERE PARTICULAR VACCINES WHICH ARE MORE SUITABLE FOR CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE POPULATION? ' THEIR EXPERT REPLIED 'THE ONLY GROUP ONE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT USING THE OXFORD VACCINE FOR, ARE PEOPLE WHOSE IMMUNITY IS SUPPRESSED OR COMPROMISED, BECAUSE IT IS A LIVE VIRUS, ALTHOUGH NOT A HUMAN VIRUS (CHIMPANZEE), IT IS A LIVE VIRUS; I THINK THAT FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IMMUNO COMPROMISED, CLEARLY WE WANT TO PROTECT THEM, AND THE PFIZER VACCINE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.' I have looked into this difference and the Oxford vaccines are produced using weakened forms of the (live) virus. But the jabs from Pfizer vaccine are messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines. These only use the virus's genetic code. An mRNA vaccine is injected into the body where it enters cells and tells them to create antigens. The expert clearly states we should only have the Pfizer vaccine.

Best wishes and keep safe. Polly

[PMRpro Ambassador]

I'm adding this link to a statement from the head of LupusUK. Both they and VasculitisUK had been very concerned about this news article as it contradicts previous information.

JVCI and rheumatologists who were involved in the trial are confident it is safe for immunosuppressed patients.

healthunlocked.com/lupusuk/...

[GOOD_GRIEF]

Perhaps this version of explaining how the Oxford vaccine works will help:

nytimes.com/interactive/202...

[ClarkB]

Well, I received a call yesterday from my GP Practice to go for a Pfizer vaccination at a local hospital next Wednesday. They said they were supposed to get the Oxford vaccine this week but it hadn’t arrived. I haven’t studied which would be preferable, but as I have several hospital appointments currently, I’m just going for the first one offered!