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Dog Kennel Cough Vaccine

Pennythedug
Pennythedug
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OH was at Vet today ( with dog!! ) for annual vaccination and was told that if dog is having a kennel cough vaccine anyone who has a compromised immune system as we all do, should stay away from dog for 24 -48 hours because the vaccine is live and some people have developed a version of kennel cough that has put them into hospital being very ill. Some vets have been sued because of this and I imagine that is why the warning was given.

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Pongo13

😮🐶 thanks for the tip. Never heard this before. Something else to look forward to!

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Pennythedug
Pennythedug
in reply to Pongo13

Thank you

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Laurapc

Sorry but that's the biggest load of nonsense I have ever heard. My immune system has been compromised for 35 years and I've taken many dogs to the vet for the vaccine. I did a quick google search and nothing came up.

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Pennythedug
Pennythedug
in reply to Laurapc

I am only saying what the Vet said

I suppose it depends on how compromised people are and how worried Vets are about being sued .

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Laurapc
Laurapc
in reply to Pennythedug

Yes, I know you are. I wouldn't dwell on it if I were you. We all have plenty to worry about as it is.

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Pennythedug
Pennythedug
in reply to Laurapc

I am not dwelling on it just thought that I should pass it on

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PMRpro
PMRproModerator
in reply to Laurapc

It is the case when humans (as in children) are given live vaccines - care should be exercised about contact, particularly with nappies (diapers) for a period post vaccination.

Dogs DO shed post-vaccination, this article says for 7 weeks - not just a few days:

google.com/search?rlz=1CAXG...

and this

academic.oup.com/cid/articl...

suggests there are a lot of unknowns for everyone, and immunocomprised patients are more at risk than the general population.

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Laurapc
Laurapc
in reply to PMRpro

Would you not think that vets would be at very high risk of infection considering they are administering this vaccine numerous times a day/week? My last vet while still living in the U.S had been having chemo for months for breast and bowel cancer. I'm sure she would have known about the possibility and she was extremely compromised. I just think there tends to be an over reaction sometimes to lots of things and its best to take a step back before taking unnecessary action. Pennythedug's dog was looking at being ostracised for 48 hours.

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PMRpro
PMRproModerator
in reply to Laurapc

Who knows - I just presented some comment. What I DO know is that a former colleague of my husband developed a severe case of something like ME - it was never really identified at the time, some 30 years ago. In retrospect, in the light of later discoveries, it was postulated that he had picked up live polio virus from his newborn daughter's nappies. He spent some years in a wheelchair, needed oxygen a lot and at one point was being considered for a respirator. He has recovered some I believe, enough to be heavily involved with an ME charity and research, but "lost" a considerable period when his children were small.

Never say never...

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SheffieldJane

I have heard this about the polio vaccine before.

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Yellowbluebell
YellowbluebellModerator
in reply to SheffieldJane

Me too. We were advised when our eldest was born to have the vaccination for polio ourselves. Which we did.xx

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Yellowbluebell
YellowbluebellModerator
in reply to SheffieldJane

We were not immunocompromised at that time, it was because some dad had become ill after his child had vaccination.

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nickm001
nickm001
in reply to PMRpro

Doesn't this explanation remind you of influenza vaccine ? With Bordetella there is 2 in 50 chance that they will "get" the right virus and the article is calling it "shot in a dark". I had to chuckle when thinking that for influenza probability is 3 in 150!...Granted some of the influenza vaccines are live virus, but most are not...but that does not change the math.

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Pennythedug
Pennythedug
in reply to PMRpro

Thank you

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arthur463
arthur463
in reply to PMRpro

Well said PMRpro - Pennythedug was being well-intentioned, and she and her vet may well be right.

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Pennythedug

Thank you Arthur

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arthur463

My Pleasure

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Maisie1958

In theory it could happen but I think if I was that immunocompromised I’d stay away from dogs’ mouths all the time not just after live modified vaccines. Atb x

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Maisie1958

PS again if you were that immunocompromised should your dog developed the natural strain of KC you could “catch”’ Bordetella from that not just

from the intra nasal vaccine “type”

You could also probably sue your vet if they had let you off having the vaccine done and that happened 💰💰💰

Best not to be in the consult room when the intra nasal vaccine given in case the dog sneezes it out in your face but I think there’s more worrying things in life.

😷☠️🐶

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Pennythedug

Thanks

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arthur463

I do try to stay away from the mouth of Teddy my cockapoo Maisie - But every now and then he manages to plant a quick kiss before I can stop him. I haven't caught hardpad or distemper yet, but I would prefer that he didn't do it.

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SheffieldJane

This is news to me and a lot of people I imagine. Thanks for posting!

I don’t seem to fall victim to everything now I’m down to 6 mgs. My OH has had a really bad cold and sore throat. So far nothing with me!

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Hollyseden

As I was reading through these comments it got me thinking. Soon after diagnosis I read about compromised immune system etc and remember being a bit worried about chickenpox outbreak at my granddaughter's nursery as I collect her 3 days a week. Maybe just lucky but I caught nothing and have been lucky to miss out on the usual round of colds etc.... Of course now I'm going to wake up in the morning with a lurgy cos I've said that out loud 🙄😷

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Yellowbluebell
YellowbluebellModerator
in reply to Hollyseden

That's the sort of thing I say and then develop something from nowhere

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Hollyseden

Well I made it! Another day without a cold, in spite of tempting fate 😆

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Yellowbluebell
YellowbluebellModerator
in reply to Hollyseden

You never know you might scoot around the germs this timexx

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nickm001
nickm001
in reply to Hollyseden

If you had chickenpox, then you have immunity. If you didn't have it as a child, best to be careful and possibly look into getting vaccine, because it can be really bad to get it as adult.

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PMRpro
PMRproModerator
in reply to nickm001

The immunity level does vary - and fades with age like most others.

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nickm001
nickm001
in reply to PMRpro

yup everything fades with age :)

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MamaBeagle
MamaBeagle
in reply to nickm001

Or droops! All that exposure to gravity........

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Hollyseden
Hollyseden
in reply to nickm001

Can't remember if I had chickenpox as a child but did have shingles when I was 21! Most inconvenient, was during college exams.

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SheffieldJane

I nursed Theo through it, including putting calamine lotion on each spot and didn’t catch it, never had it, but somehow was immune when tested.

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Hollyseden

A labour of love 😍

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Pennythedug

Like you I seem to have fewer problems with infections since I started on press.

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Slosh

Hi Pennythegog,

Yes my sons two dogs have just had live Rabie's tests and I will not be able to go to their house for 6 least six weeks.

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Pennythedug
Pennythedug
in reply to Slosh

That sounds like a wise move

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My God Son couldn't go to his Granny's Party as she was on a course of Chemotherapy. Same thing, in case of infection.

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karools16

Never heard that before. How many people are on Chemo, whom we don't know, walking around? Wonder what Mrs Nails thinks.

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Pennythedug

Thank you for reply

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Pennythedug

Ether to be safe

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Pennythedug

Sorry I meant to say Better

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patriciawhite

WOW ,The things we learn here .Thanks for the advice .

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Hidden
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My dogs have always had the kennel cough vaccine. Had 5 dogs now down to two and never had a problem.

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Jankie

Yes definitely your immune system is compromised when having chemo treatment

I had to inject myself to protect from infection when having chemo. I was on 6mg of pred as well.

I was thankfully fine but I spoke to a few people who had terrible problems with infections

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