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Vitamin K2 - a supplement which might help with covid19

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I can't see that this has been posted on the forum yet. Another reason, besides guarding bone health, to remember to take your Vitamin K2 supplement:

theguardian.com/science/202...

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yogabonnie

WOW so pleased by this!!!! I have been bemoaning my upped dose of preds and type A blood and now I can feel like I am counteracting the bad stuff with my vitamin K2! I'll skip the Natto!!! eo had it once in Japan!

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SnazzyD

I saw this on a Covid group. It is a bit vague on the differences between K1 &K2 and then just refers to just “K” most of the time. However, it’s is good that another of our staples, Vit D too, are coming up trumps.

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HeronNS in reply toSnazzyD

I wish they would be more specific, this is a common problem, sometimes even with scientific papers. However the fact they are emphasizing the cheese and specifically describe natto makes it clear that they are really talking about K2. We get K1 from other sources.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toSnazzyD

Not sure I get the link - not that it affects me as I am on anticoagulant treatment anyway - but if someone on warfarin goes higher than they should be and starts to bleed then vit K1 is the antidote so they do clot ...

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SnazzyD in reply toPMRpro

I wasn’t sure why, if K1 promotes clotting, that it is good with covid19 which seems to cause clots.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toSnazzyD

Exactly ...

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HeronNS in reply toSnazzyD

I am sure that it's Vitamin K2 which is being discussed. There is absolutely too much confusion between these two forms of Vitamin K. They should be given different names, like the various B vitamins have different names.

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Lookingforideas in reply toHeronNS

This is from the article that someone else linked on here. ... I’m just reading it now. (I take K2 MK-7 daily - in a spray 😊.)

Vitamin K1 (phylloquinone): Found in plant foods like leafy greens.

Vitamin K2 (menaquinone): Found in animal foods and fermented foods (2Trusted Source).

Vitamin K2 can be further divided into several different subtypes, the most important ones being MK-4 and MK-7.

Some scientists have suggested that the roles of vitamins K1 and K2 are quite different, and many feel that they should be classified as separate nutrients altogether.

This idea is supported by an animal study showing that vitamin K2 (MK-4) reduced blood vessel calcification whereas vitamin K1 did not (5Trusted Source).

Controlled studies in people also observe that vitamin K2 supplements generally improve bone and heart health, while vitamin K1 has no significant benefits (6Trusted Source).

However, more human studies are needed before the functional differences between vitamins K1 and K2 can be fully understood

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HeronNS in reply toSnazzyD

They aren't promoting VitaminK1, they are promoting Vitamin K2. And I would suggest not as a treatment, but something to be aware of - that people who are deficient in this vitamin have poorer outcomes from covid19 than people who appear to have been ingesting a sufficient amount of it (Vitamin K2).

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MrsNails

Heron, PMRPro l haven’t had chance to fully study this, the sun came out! With reference to Blooding Thinning Meds l’m assuming Warfarin, but it made me wonder about Aspirin 75mg taken daily with reference to K2?

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HeronNS in reply toMrsNails

As far as I know Vitamin K2 does not have the same effect on blood as Vitamin K1. Its purpose is more to do with the body utilizing calcium. It does have some effect however. But advice always is to check with doctor or pharmacist. In the article it points out there has not been a single covid related death in Japan in the area where natto is a common food!

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MrsNails in reply toHeronNS

Thanks for that, l’ll have a read now l’m back inside, it’s gone cold again.

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HeronNS

Here is an article which discusses the difference between the two forms of Vitamin K.

healthline.com/nutrition/vi...

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JGBH

Thank you. It is most interesting. So much research needs to be done...

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Jackoh

Thanks for posting this Heron x

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tangocharlie

Another reason to eat kale! And broccoli and delicious spring green cabbage

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Amkoffee

People need to be aware of the side effects of K2. Like K1 it help the body to clot blood. And this is fine for your average person. However, it is not recommended for people with any kind of clotting disorder. And I'm talking about someone who's had a stroke, a DVT or a pulmonary embolism. Anyone taking a blood thinner or a platelet thinner should not be taking this supplement unless it's been advised by a doctor.

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