Prednisone? and teeth

[HeronNS]

For those of you with incipient tooth problems, perhaps caused by "bone thinning" - please make sure you are getting enough Vitamin D3 and, above all, Vitamin K2. I cut back my D severely for some time, because I'd had a high reading and, because I thought maybe I was taking too much K2 (apparently it is safe at high doses, but still...), I halved my dose of that. And after some months my teeth, which used to be very sensitive but had been much better for a while, started to to get sensitive again. Started to take a little D3 again, and went back to earlier higher dose of K2. It can't be coincidence that within a very few weeks the teeth are no longer as sensitive, and continue to improve.

[SnazzyD]

Does K2 come on its own or is it commonly in your average vit supplement?

[chris2ubelle in reply to SnazzyD]

Hi I take K2 100mcg and mine comes with 2mg vitC 1 a day with a meal by Troon health care.

[PMRpro Ambassador]

I investigated the cost of VitK2 recently - costs a fortune from the pharmacy here in Italy! Hoping it is cheaper in the UK and if so must remember to get some - that's where I get my vit D.

[DorsetLady PMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to PMRpro]

Have you looked at zipvit.co.uk - prices good and they deliver to Europe for £5.50.

Apologies if not supposed to advertise!

[jinasc]

I have taken VitD 25u (with a tail on the bottom left hand)g for over 5 years one tablet every day. Cost just over £10 from Boots for 180 tablets.

I was reccommended to do this when I had such a low Vit D test that I had to take 40,000 units per day for two weeks, another blood test then 20,000-units per day for another two weeks. Since taking those tablets, my Vit D has never gone down.

Now I would be worried about my teeth if I was taking AA.

[Nap1]

Thank you for that information my number was 60 and GP had me cut back I felt 60 what is the max and was good. It took me a very long time to get there I was at 22 and teeth hurt terribly. It also took 35,000 units a week for a year to get me up to 60. Thanks again good Info. What dose of K2 are you taking?

[Doralouise77]

Interesting....my teeth have become extremely sensitive which seems to correlate with my D3 being lowered to 1,000 iu by my nephrologist....he said that is the max for my kidneys...I've never taken K2 so will look into it if that might help....

Cheers

[HeronNS in reply to Doralouise77]

It seems to be a pretty strong correlation so I thought I should share. If you have kidney problems please make sure nothing new is likely to harm them.

[Marcy47]

I take Vit D3 10ug, dose is 1or 2 a day. Also Vit K2 75ug once a day.

I get K2 from Healthspan on-line, they deliver to Europe.

[HeronNS]

For those who can stomach it, Vitamin K2 supplements are made from natto, a fermented soybean product, Japanese. I haven't tried to get it myself. It might be a lot cheaper than the supplements. I don't know what my capsules cost, I know they are pricey, but there are 120 in the bottle, that's 120 days worth. Each capsule 100 mcg Vitamin K2-7. I've been taking double, though.

It does caution people to consult a health professional if on blood thinners.

[Asbeck]

My Rheumy told me not to take Vitamin K. I don't know which one--Re.: K2. Some of the Ks are for clotting blood. Since our arteries (GCA) are inflamed, the doc didn't want a vitamin helper to clot the blood going through a narrowed artery.

[HeronNS in reply to Asbeck]

K1 is the form of the vitamin we get from our food and which newborns are given by injection. People on the old style blood thinners like warfarin are warned not to take extra K1. I understand that K2 also has an effect on blood clotting but is not as serious an issue as with K1, its primary function is to be involved with where calcium ends up in the body, whereas K1 is concerned with blood clotting.

authoritynutrition.com/vita...

[Asbeck in reply to HeronNS]

Thank you HeronNS. I think that in some book about heart health I read that K (I guess K1) is good so that calcium doesn't lodge in the heart arteries. Because I didn't know the difference between the two, I haven't taken it. Now I might.

[HeronNS in reply to Asbeck]

Asbeck, K2 is what you should look for in a supplement.

[jevuki]

Yes I too take 8000 units of D3 per day. Just had my teeth cleaned and feeling sensitive I may increase to 10,000 units per day

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to jevuki]

8000 or 800IU? 10,000 IU a day would be far too much and put you at risk of overdose if you continued at that level every day. It is fine once a week, a few times a week if you are very depleted but not as a general thing.

[jevuki]

Hi PMRPro, My doctor takes blood monthly and tests all my levels, my D level is always the same about 70 which is ok, the bone loss is directly contributed to the Pred according to dentist, and perio dentist........it affects some folks differently and according to them this is my Achilles heel.......(lucky me)

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to jevuki]

I was querying the dose you quoted - do you mean eight hundred or eight thousand IU? I wouldn't like someone to read it out of context and think ten thousand IU per day of vit D was a good idea.

[jevuki]

I take each pill which are 2000 IU times 4 a day = 8000 IU

two in the morning and two at night so far it works well

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to jevuki]

At least you are being monitored and you must have been very depleted. But it is a dose they warn against taking for more than a few months.