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Where are the Female Doctors??????

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Female Doctors-where are you for our Women???????? Where are ALL the female Doctors who work with WOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many of you are out there working in the hospitals and have diagnosed and successfully treated and cured woman, you were trained to detect - treat and deal with female issues------can you speak out please female Drs/GPs/Specialists!!!!!!!!!! where are you???????

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But to the Male Doctors who deal with Wombs-whats going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why are you struggling to treat women, why are you struggling to diagnose women, why are Male Drs not understanding their chosen fields?????????????? how many issues can a womb get, how many problems can a womb face???????? in your studies-how many problems did you research for wombs?????? im really interested to know whats going on that women are being left in pain, being told their wombs must be removed, left with untreated infections, etc etc etc dont you think its time to speak out and explain to us all???????? im so annoyed!!!!!!!!!

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Catmama776

Sooo I’m not sure exactly what you mean. I have had incredible male and female drs over the years. The problem is finding one who specializes not in ‘wombs’ as you put it but in the diseases that affect them. What exactly are you having issues with if you don’t mind me asking.

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Wombs!!!!! is merely a reference to the female parts, everything that happens in the female womb, whatever disease or condition that is. i was trying to edit my ranting, I think its great that you've had treatment from male and female drs, so they are out there then!!!!!!!!!!! because when you read some of what ive been reading from women who are struggling to get the help they need or struggling to be diagnosed properly, i think to myself where is all the female drs who specialise in the treatment - diagnosis etc of female parts that they done their study on!!!! and to all the male drs also who go into woman gynaecologist issues...... as i see many woman struggling including myself, for many years...... so im happy that you have been treated and that your happy with the drs, but for those who have not been treated we still suffer not knowing our problems and not being treated!!!!!!!

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Hi, im not sure what the causes are - im still waiting to be checked out since 2006, then after a random scan done 5 years ago (outside of this country) - showed a growth or something, but ive been waiting for an internal scan since then to have it diagnosed...... but as soon as i know what it is, i.ll be moaning about it on here for sure!!!!!!

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Hi, this is not an official forum for medical professionals. Some may answer questions and assist, but your best bet is to seek out a specialist for your issues through your primary care provider. No one here is capable or certified to treat your ailments, just point you in the right direction, and I would never advise taking anything you read here over a medical professional's treatment solutions. If you're not happy with your current treatment, it's probably best to seek out better options in that range. Just a friendly suggestion. Good luck!

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Hi, i wasn't actually asking for DRs to reply, i know this is for patients seeking advice, help, or to merely express their concerns, i was merely stating a point about how many women are struggling to be given the correct help!!!!! you only have to read some of what women say on here, including myself, have you read some of the struggles on here that many women are facing???????? I was voicing my opinion - sorry for that! it was a rant!!!!! thanks for your advice, im happy with all and any advice given, and i would never take medical advice from strangers over a professional, but its finding a good professional who knows their specialist field and treating the problems, i do see lots of women who have the same conditions and not getting the help they need!!!

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but i forgot to say also, that yeah, most specialists/doctors/gps are strangers too but why would i have more faith in them more than those on here - ive had more connections with the strangers on here than the strangers in medical health.....LOL :)

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You can ask your doctor to refer you to a female specialist, if males have failed you.

Suzie

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its not about males failing me, its about professional men and women who go into female health, but never seem to diagnose or treat females properly. the majority of drs are male in comprising to females......

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i wish it was that easy suzie - i.ll take anyone that comes along, male or female.... theres a lack of good female gynaecologists out there, and im not guaranteed that they are going to help me or anyone else - and it shocks me that any medical profession struggles to use their training to find and really help people, maybe if i was dr/specialist i could answer this - but so many are being failed by the medical system and it hurts me.....what amazes me is the strength we have to live with severe pain and how some live with multiple health issues and still manage to get through the day...remarkable humans!!!!!!! sometimes i think - no point in drs anymore - get rid of them - and let us all deal with our problems on SIRI or GOOGLE CHROME.......LOL ;) if i dont laugh i.ll scream!!!!!!

I'm with you. Maybe this is just a forum to chat about health problems with people who are ALL in the same position. BUT I've had some excellent advise off here,I really can't see the point of being on here if it's not to dig a bit deeper into our problems. Doesn't mean you have to take anyone's advise that's not qualified,but if you seem to suffer in the same way as a person your reading about,you can discuss with each other,then see your GP and ask her questions. Otherwise no point being on here.

I have by the way come across professionals on here,occasionally.

Good luck to you,keep digging and get as much information as possible.

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yes, this is a forum for those who have been let down or they seek to see if there is anyone else who is in the same boat, or for those who are desperately trying to understand why they have pain, or for those who had a great experience and want to share with others.

there is only so many conditions that a WOMB!!!!!!!! can have, so to search if someone has the same conditions as you, is a relief to some people.

i was referred to come on here by a professional, to help connect with other people who are going through the same struggles, or to find similar people who have untreated medical conditions.

i was never looking for professionals to answer my questions, as this would be the wrong platform too do that - i was merely having a rant about how specialist drs in their chosen field were failing so many women, when really they went into their chosen fields to help women, and in my research-there is more men treating females and wombs than there is females, this is not to say that men cannot treat or understand female wombs, my point is WHY is there so many females not being treated or left untreated, or being misdiagnosed or undiagnosed within medical fields, such as NHS......

this is not an attack on those who chose to make comments about my comments, if you read half of what women write on here-you will see that there is a staggering amount of women who have been to many professionals for help and never received the help they need, or been treated for a condition that they dont have or been misdiagnosed, i am one of those women, despite being referred to the correct specialist - i was sent away and told i was fine, to then discover that i was not!!!!!! to find that the examination given to me should have reported the problems but for some strange reason the DR failed to see it, but another DR saw it clearly!!!!!!!!!! and there is hundreds just like me..... Im grateful to all those who have made comments in response to my Rant.......and its true, the odd few professionals do actually come on here-for their own problems too.......and if they see this, then i ask them to respond or pass it on-to those who can respond or help or do something, if not then no big deal either......

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I do actually wholeheartedly agree! And I will stick my neck out hete and say that male doctors do not understand many of the 'out of the box issues they have not been taught at med school. Neither can they empathise...they cannot even imagine what kind of pain we may be suffering from... it cannot happen to them. This does NOT mean all male doctors are like thus, although, sadly, I have met too many . Have given up looking for help now. And, I'm sorry, it's not so simple , as was suggested, to go and get referred to another one by your GP. Believe me. Sorry, but I feel for the lady who posted the original 'Santa's above and high-brow comments are really, really unhelpful.

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I have also been through 4 GPS 2 of them were females and 2 of them were males, just trying to get the best treatments and referrals, ive been too many hospitals and many specialists in hope of having a proper diagnosis - i call it TMT......The Medical Tour..LOL..

1 of these specialists left a camera hanging out of me whilst he washed his hands, the examination was over, but he just walked away and left this camera hanging out of me, it was degrading to say the least - i asked him "sir have you finished your examination" to which he replied "yes i have" i then asked him why he has left the camera hanging out of me - he never replied to that - just walked over and removed the camera.

I thought to myself - you should have done that before you walked away and washed your hands, i have that recorded on my phone, just the sound not the footage!!!

Dont give up Erna - i understand your exhausted, but do not give up, ive been there too, ive given up for a few years-then started again searching, then gave up and started again searching, i get it, its too exhausting when you can't get the help or your told nothing can be done, you must keep fighting and keep searching for the help.......

I have lost faith totally - but im going to keep fighting to find out what the hell is wrong with me - i will not allow these people to get the better of me.

i understand that we can't always get the answers we want or need, but we need something - we need good drs who know what the hell they are doing!!!!

dont give up Erna-please!!!!!!!

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Sorry you’re having problems doctors can’t understand or fix. But i understand 100% as I’ve encountered the same. Doctors are too busy inputting info in their computers, they couldn’t even tell you whether you had black, white, red, blonde hair or the color of your skin. They dont see the patient nor listen to the patient. Sorry state of affairs, the doctors of the newest generation.

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hi, yes, its common knowledge that the NHS is failing patients in abundance, for those who had successful treatments then they are very lucky indeed. and im glad they have been treated, and living a productive healthy life.

im sorry that they feel my rant was a personal attack on their existence, i would never attack any other person seeking answers.

The old school Dr has gone or retired or moved into private healthcare, and whats left over is not helping females, im especially talking about women who are having medical conditions within their wombs, a womb is a capsuled expression of everything within it, so i assumed that everyone would understand my reference - i feel when you hear and read many females experiences, that you can clearly see the issues unfold, that they are not happy and seek out forums such as this one to find answers, or to find others who have the same experience, ive found more answers or similarities on here than any professional has given me, but am i going to go away and diagnose myself based on someone else health conditions-no of course not, i am searching for answers on why women are being failed by professionals in their chosen field - this is obviously happening, there is hundreds of complaints every year made by females about the lack of care or help given to them.

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I wholeheartedly agree, there is a huge lack of compasion and being treated as individuals now. Every time i go to see my gynae (which is every 4 months), i never see the same one. Then they spend the entire time reading through notes and i get no further forward. Its a sad state of affairs now. I now have the issue of burning down below all day every day which is only a drop in the ocean to my other symptoms. Not once has any one of the gynaes taken a look! I was supposed to be referred to the pain clinic 8 months ago and despite me chasing numerous times, im still waiting. This is no way to be treated. Again, care isnt at the forefront of health professionals now

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They don’t care anymore. It’s disgusting.

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I walked out of my last gastro appointment - as the same thing happened to me, it was another Dr?Specialist from the last 4 other Drs/Specialists.

he spent most of the appointment reading over my notes (which he should have done before i entered the room-but instead he done it on my time-he should have got familiar with his next patient before they entered the room) this new Dr/Specialist said "oh i can't remember seeing you before - so what are you here for" ????

i went mental - i was screaming and shouting like a lunatic, i told him i will never use this dept again and that he was a s***head.

im totally disgusted at myself to sink so low to have done this - he is only doing his job right!!!

abusing Drs/Specialists is in no-way cool or kind - if it was done to me i would be so hurt by my patient.

seriously-im disgusted at myself.........

this isn't an excuse ok, but i sat in the waiting room watching 2 clinics sore into chaos, drs/specialists blaming receptionists for mistakes that they never made - specialist talking down to the receptionists and humiliating them in front of patients (which i secretly recorded) all the clinics were running over by 2 and half hours, people were agitated - but as brits-we sit and show patience and respect-looking at our watches(phones) and twitching our feet.....

When i walked into the specialist room - there was a girl hanging around with a little notebook/leaning against the bed (as if it was a playground toy) - chewing gum (i thought it was his daughter) after 10 minutes he then said "this is someone doing research" my blood was starting to boil (as soon as i walked in he should have introduced the student (if she was a student) or (i should have been told when i arrived at the reception that my DR/Specialist had a student nurse in his clinic-and do i have any objections) ( i would not have objected-its important that student nurses/drs/gps get that bedside training).

The whole experience/Clinic was shoddy-classless-disrespectful and felt like he was a random guy off the street, and he was handed my file and was trying to ACT as a dr....

Yes-i lost the plot completely.......that was over a year ago........now im waiting to go to another gastro clinic----and i feel that when i walk into to this new place full of hope-that this DR will be sitting there in the chair......... :o

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....................

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Update on the last post....when i got home from my meltdown/nervous breakdown i instantly called the clinic and apologised for my actions, it was a disgrace, i was in tears at the shame of MY lack of any class or respect for him or myself........ i asked the reception to send him/specialist my apologies, they offered me another appointment with him and i said NO, i said no and that i stood by my decision that his clinic was rundown and unprofessional and i wanted nothing to do with him or his clinic.....still to this day im very sorry for my outburst towards him..

DISCLAIMER....even when we get the worst care or treatment or the worst drs, always have respect for them and yourself......always!!!!!!!!!!

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just a quick other point is that the specialists dont seem to talk to each other.

we are told that pelvic pain is notouriously difficult to diagnose.

for 7 years i.ve been sent from gynno to urology to digestivo and even suggestion i could see a psychiatrist.

gynno give me hormones, digestivo give me IBS tablets and pipi doctor give me muscle relaxants.

here in spain the doctors are all incredibly macho.

i dont expect sedatives or local anesthetics any more.

it dont happen despite what dr google sez.

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Which country are you in? I stay in Scotland and I have battled with I'll health for 30 years . I have endured 15 ops, had many treatments, Seen a lot of medical professionals both male and female, all claiming this time it will help!! How wrong were they!! What I have learned and I wish I had a lot sooner, is take control of your health care. We have a right to choose our medical professionals and I have now been blessed with a team of 4 female consultants, a physio and gp, I finally decided they wou!d be more empathetic to my needs and conditions!! They all work together as a team discussing and sharing ideas with me as what is the best treatment for me in the longer term!!!! A cautionary tale - sometimes what we seek is not there!! There is no magic pill, no operation and no treatment. I now focus on recognising I am in pain and will always be, however, don't focus on what we can't do but try adapting what once was into something more manageable. This works for me but we are all different with similar conditions. Consider not wasting years searching for a cure that might not be there, this is not giving in ,this is taking control of your lives and having some semblance of being "normal".I wish you all well on your journeys, be proactive and start taking control!!!

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Spot on. You got it. I've suffered with pain for over 14-15 yrs,and like you I wish I knew then what I know now.

I certainly agree with taking care of your own health,especially when it comes to medications.

But I'm way past believing in anyone can do anything for me now,if from the start I knew what I know now,I may have stood a chance.

So yes your right.

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Ive learnt from this pain for years that i am the best gp/dr for my own body.

Noone has helped me..

I have found all my own specialists, osteos, physios.

Changed my lifestlye ...

Thats whats healed me.... ME

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we all know when we have pain, we know roughly where the pain is coming from, we tell our GP, DR, Specialist and hope they investigate, deal with it, treat it, then we recover right!!!!!!!!! Well if we are lucky then yes-this NORMAL scenario should work that way....but instead - we have to treat and understand medical conditions - find our own specialists and hope to find a good dr........ Now thats not normal!!!!!!! we should go to the GP, tell our issues, then your GP refers you to the Specialist, who then investigates and then treats you...thats what they were trained to do right!!!!!! We should all be given PHD on our own health...LOL

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Nikki1974 in reply to Skye22

Very well said skye22. How long did it take to find the right team of professionals? Was it yourself that found them or your GP? I know if i could find someone that gave a damn im halfway to getting better!

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It's taken me a very long time to get where I am now, it would take way too long to give a medical history but in short, endometriosis, hysterectomy aged 26, numerous ovarian cysts as ovaries left in because of my age. Eventual ovarianectomy, then came the adhesions and not being told that more surgery means more adhesions. Result now have adhesions in bowel,bladder, pelvis and abdomen, and serious bowel dysfunction. Only in last few months diagnosed with levator-ani syndrome causing very painful spasms that I can hardly sit . Total of 30yrs of waiting on appointments seeing medical practitioners trying new drugs etc,etc,ect, sound familiar!!! It was by pure chance I was sent to a specialist physio for bladder and bowel support, first time in 30yrs that someone actual!y listened and cared enough to say how can I help!!! She is my guardian angel who looked at all my symptoms and referred me on to a gynecologist and colorectal consultants. put it all together and you have a dynamic team of female practitioners all working together to ease my symptoms. Would just like to say that I am at the severe stage of conditions where surgery is now not an option due to risks involved. This relates to my cautionary ta!e, don't waste years chasing answers and asking why sometimes it just is. I sincerely hope you all get a guardian angel who will care enough to allow you to feel that litt!e bit more normal and start living. Take control!!!

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Wow Skye22, you really have been through the mill with it all. I'm sorry you are now unable to have more surgery but it's great to hear you have a good team behind you. And you make a very good valid point that holds the key for me and that is to find the right people, they may not find that cure but they can support you enough to make things manageable. Great advice, I will continue my search, who knows, if I find the right people they may provide beneficial in changing things for me

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On a more positive note throughout all the ill health I managed to raise 2children with the help from my amazing family and my biggest and most proudest moment was finally graduating at age 50!! better late than never!!! What makes us all unique is we never quit no matter how terrible our conditions are. I really hope you get the medical help that you deserve and look out for that guardian angel!!!!

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wow........you have been through it....... reading this sunk my heart, hysterectomy at 26 years young............. they have now stopped taking female wombs out, as they realise it doesn't help the females!!!!!!!

it took that long to find your problems - this is my point,,,,,,, but i hear your words skye - that looking for answers we may not get them.

im asking why are we not getting the answers - im asking why its taking up-to 10 years or more for some women to get the help they need.

im asking why is-it taking so long to get the right team.

im asking why we have to keep fighting for it, i think its great that many do get the best team, i think its great when someone is diagnosed and treated.

but there is an overwhelming situation within the NHS - that leave hundreds of women in limbo, and by the time they do get any kind of help - they are so grateful and dismiss all the years they struggled, forgetting that they had their wombs removed, or had their ovaries chopped in half, or left them with infections and so on.......because we just want the answers right!!!

i spoke to 20 women who are all left without children because they were misdiagnosed, wrongly diagnosed or simply left to deal with so-called unknown problems, to then years later when its too late to have children - some of them found out why, so either 20 years ago-the drs knew all along what was wrong with them, or the drs were so bad at their jobs, or they simply did not care, whatever it was - these women were failed by their GPS/DRS/SPECIALISTS etc etc

i will also probably forget the 20 years i was left in pain if they ever find out what the pain is-as i'll be so grateful that they found out the cause of the pain.

ive waffled on a bit here - im happy that you and many are taking their health into their hands and fighting for the treatments they deserve, but my god it takes years of our life doing it sister and leaves many of us suffering for years - which simply should not be the case - its not 1685 - its 2019!!!!!!!!!

we put microchips into hands, we make robotic bees and we talk to SIRI to open and close our fridge doors.....surely we can help a fallopian tube live a long-life....

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Certainly not my GP. I can see his patronising look on his face now... another woman with psychological problems.!

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LOL.....yeah, i know that look!!!!!!!!

thanks to our DRS we have them psychological problems-due to pain and ignorance, due to misdiagnosis or no diagnosis.

They love it really, keeps them in jobs!!!

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woop woop, love Scotland, im in the North west.

thanks for letting me know this, thats amazing, a good strong team of females working within gynaecology - i just think thats great.

But all those years of searching, fighting, being in pain and not knowing why - its crazy girl.

Yes your right in many ways for sure......

This isn't about men not knowing what the hell they are doing, or females knowing more than men, but females have the wombs!!!!!!!

there is an obvious lack of females with the profession across the board.

Both men and females can let us down, and that was my point, why are they not recognising early the problems that we are facing - the patient always tells the doctor what the problem is.....

Quote "Listen to your patient - he is giving the diagnosis" by William Osler......

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NOTE........This rant is not attacking anyone who come on here looking for guidance, its trying to address the state of medicine and those Medical Drs - who chose to deal with female organs and functions within the womb, im sure there is many drs who are great drs, and there is many who are not, im talking about those who are not, wether they are females or males......why are so many women being failed by them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in the last 7 days, ive spoke to 5 females who have all been failed, and 1 who has successful treatment. im not saying theres no-one being helped, i am saying theres hundreds who are not being helped. when i started seeking answers i found there was many many women struggling to get the help and support from specialists in their field, or gps, etc etc

Thats fact!!!!!!!

I appreciate all the comments made here - its a forum to discuss, debate, shed light, shed stress, seek advice, seek answers, find similarities etc etc please do not take it personal, or you fail to see whats being said!!!!!! if i have not explained myself properly i apologise, this is my rant and my opinion, and im asking for females and males within gynaecologist realms to explain why their training is failing hundreds of women, its being put out there for anyone to comment on regardless of their responses or who responds.

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I totally agree. I was dismissed, purposely misdiagnosed to hide a post surgical complication ( migrated Filshie clip caused a rectal neuropathy ), mistreated, sedated and left to die in agony.

I went above and beyond to get answers and even with an official diagnosis due to a consult in America, I came home to Canada to see my doctor and was told in a very brusque way, “ I don’t believe this diagnosis! Your pain specialist has dropped you. “. Great health care? NOT.

Doctors don’t care anymore. They are lazy and have lost their ability to do proper differential diagnosing, Now, they use their ‘ radar’ and make assumptions about us due to our weight, our marital status, how we come across as Mothers. What are they getting paid for? They aren’t doing their jobs!

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Thats just horrendous, but sadly its true, so many women are not getting the care they need, im a woman so im writing as a woman, im sure and know that theres lots of men also suffering with their conditions(whatever they may be). I dont hate men, dont hate male Drs/GPs/Specialists.........

im not only talking about myself as a woman, im highlighting that theres hundreds and hundreds of women being left in really bad conditions or not being treated properly.

Its not like theres new female womb conditions appearing out of the woodwork and leaving specialists puzzled, im saying that theres a list of conditions known to the WOMB, that are not being addressed properly by those who trained to spot these conditions, or why else are you in that field of healthcare.

That symptoms are being confused with other symptoms, that obvious signs of a condition are being ignored or suggested to be something else entirely.

Yes i have noticed also that infections PID etc are being overlooked and not picked up - and why is that???????????

Is the correct tests being done, are they doing everything that can be done------NO, and thats why im on here.

- im so sorry that this has happened to you, and i know for sure many things are covered up to prevent exposure or to stop anyone from being sued.

Drs', GPs', Specialists' ALL get paid regardless of what they do for their patients.

My other point is that female drs know what period pain is, they feel it every month, a male Dr does not know what it feels like, my point on how there needs to be more female gynaecologists helping females i think is very very relevant - but does not distract from females also letting down other females within gynaecologist realms.

my point is all specialists working within gynae are overlooking too many females.

Female gynaecologists should know how this effects females, if they dont -they sure will know when they are in this position being told what we are being told!!!!!

KG, my thoughts are with you xx

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Can anyone recommend a lawyer in British Columbia, Canada? I am definitely a medical malpractice patient.

I was treated abusively. I was yelled at, dismissed, ignored, defamated, purposefully misdiagnosed, given incorrect medications as a result, suffered severe side effects to Cymbalta, Lyrica, Gabapentin because my pain specialist did NOT monitor me.

I never filled out any Pain Clinic Intake forms. I was told I would be seen in a Pain Clinic....NOT. I was seen on a Medicine Ward. How can this be legal in Canada?

I was given nerve blocks into my vagina when my pain was in my rectum and the nerve blocks should have been injected with guidance into my buttock where the nerve root is.

How can doctors get away with this kind of care? It is unacceptable.

The Standard of Care was NOT followed in my case whatsoever. Every consult note the doctors wrote is a misrepresentation of the truth. The doctors committed fraud!

I lost my job of 31 years, a career I loved, and thus my financial independence. I was a successful single Mother.

My son was an immature young 17.5 year old young boy and we suffered a forced disassociation. We both have post traumatic stress disorder. I almost died.

I want to sue.

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Nikki1974 in reply to Konagirl60

So sorry to hear your story Kongagirl. The medical profession have no idea how this all impacts our lives, the mental anguish it causes, the frustration and feelings of isolation. Thank goodness for forums like these. I'm also a single mum and there are days when I wake and think, I can't do this today. If I felt my GP or Gynae were backing my corner and doing their best to at least listen and take note of what I'm telling them, it would make me feel a whole lot better. I have done everything they have asked of me, taking hormones, shutting down hormones so I can at least say I have co-operated when I know in my heart it wont make a blind bit of difference. You have a real case for neglect and I do urge you to pursue it

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we all need to bloody seek compensation - im serious.

i started my complaint a few years ago - but was so ill i couldn't even continue with it, i spend years lost in pain, when theres a gap in the pain-i get back onto the complaint, but that doesn't last for long, it can take 1 bad response from a professional or someone and im back to square one - but i now realise this is a great way of keeping us from actually going to complain and seek compensation, if every single person in the uk were to make a professional complaint backed by a solicitor - the whole system would collapse and the country would go in2 bankruptcy!!!!!!!!

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I want to sue. I almost died. Doctors are fast becoming glorified criminals...I want to write to the Queen. This is criminal behaviour abandoning women like us.

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Don't write to the Queen - she gets the best care this country can give, she gets the best of the best, can you imagine if someone left something inside her body.

"off with their heads"

focus on finding yourself the best advice before you even start your complaint, as you may find that - hurdles one jumps over get higher.

focus on getting healthy KG, thats your main goal, get your mind right, get your health in a good place, or to a level where you are feeling ok with the day.

If thats never going to happen, then girl, go for it, run and get a solicitor and tell them you want your health returned, its not about the money right, its about your health......

keep a diary or record of your problems since your operation, ask for a copy of your medical records also.

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i totally agree with you.

why do young male student doctors want to specialise in gynnocology.?

where i live in spain the males are incredibly macho.

every time i have a gynno appointment i see a different male and they are totallt disinterested and not at all sympathetic especially with foreigners.

they tend to copy the notes of the previous appointment.

imagine my joy when a young lady was sat behind the desk.

she give me a very thorough internal exam without using the metal gadget and even sent me for a mri.

months later for my results i was back to square one when yet another male gynno said my results were fine.

7 years this has been going on.

its like as though because they say i'm fine, my pain will vanish and probably i'm a silly woman that imagines it.

i think about when a man gets a kick in the testicles they are undoubtedly in bad pain.

but what woman could actually comprehend what that pain feels like.

i rest my case..

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LOL......yes, many men are clueless to how a woman feels or how we are suffering.

i dont know what its like to have pain in my scrotum because i do not have a scrotum right.....

but if i was a dr studying the scrotum - its obvious i would try my best at understanding all the problems that my male patients would or could be dealing with in their scrotums.......

if a male or female dr/gp/specialist go into a chosen field to spend their next 30-40 years specialising in the chosen field of gynaecology, then do your best to understand the womb, what are the conditions the womb goes through, all the symptoms of what causes the problems and pains etc etc,

Then treat the condition, fix the problem, discuss what can be done, send us to get fixed.......if it can be multiple reasons as to why we are in pain - then eliminate the suspects one by one. instead were told - dont know what it is, but come back in 4 years and i.ll tell you the same again.......

Drs study 7 years or more right, they do all this studying to understand the body - then they narrow their study into the chosen field wether thats brain, womb, knees, eyes and so on.........they meet up with other drs in their field to learn from those who have been working many years and pick up notes, techniques etc etc

I went to the A&E the other day with my ears fluttering and liquid pouring from the ear, i was asked if its ok that a student doctor speak to me before the real doctor speaks to me, as it will be easier and faster way of helping me and diagnosing me, so i said yes of course, im all for bedside study for those training, given the fact i know about oslers work yeah, osler gave these doctors the opportunity of bed-side training right!!!!!!

When this young chinese training dr asked me "how does your ears feel around other people" i knew then too leave!!!!!!!!!!!!! and left i did!!!!!!!!!! if i did not leave then - i would have told her that she has shamed this mans name and his good work, keep training young dr - i wish you well in your career sister.........

Back to the point i was making before my ears came into it........its like they're making money from our pain.......

but there is good specialist males out there, and there is good female specialists out there, but they are rare, some of us find them and are lucky to have them, but since 2006 ive never been so lucky as too find them, what i have found is male and female drs telling me - well...maybe its this, maybe its that....your results are this, oh no your results are this!!! or your fine -or- oh no your not fine, it looks like this, but it could be that and so on and so on........year after year after year after year!!!!!!!!!!!

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Most men still don’t respect strong and smart independent women. Our autonomy threatens their frail egos. It is sad. They don’t want us to have any power over our lives. They want us to remain controlled by them.

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I have excruciating burning down below I have had it for 4yrs I have been attending the hospital for that length of time and all that happens is I get referred to different doctors my condition is still the same as the first day seen the doctors I have seen a physio I have been to the pain clinic I have seen about 4 gynecologists and I have another appointment on the 28th of this month and I hope they can do something you get your hopes up every time you go to the hospital and go away downhearted I don’t know how long I can go on with this pain it starts as soon as I get out of bed in the morning and sit down I am in and out of bed during the day the only way I can describe the pain is it’s like someone poured acid in you I am 72yrs and thought I was past problems down there. Janebee

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I have chronic pain, due to Tarlov cysts, seen on MRI scan, these cysts can cause lots of problems

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What have they suggested it could be JB? have they given any likely suspects, i suggested thrush or something - insulting i know - but what have they said to you that it could be, acid feeling for me links me to when i had cystitis and thrush together - that was freaking awful - but i was glad that it was that and nothing more serious..... i am clueless to most medical problems that a womb can have until i started having my own, then coming on here to find that theres a few more that i never knew about - but im not a DR, i might be by the end of the year if i keep reading about all our problems.....

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Hi MAM it all started with me going to my GP because I was only passing urine twice daily after that it started with all sorts of meds and creams then she referred me to the hospital they stretched my bladder with no change and then the done something to my urethra still no change then three docs had a meeting and decided to send me to pain clinic pain clinic said they couldn’t do anything as I was on all meds so they sent me for physio after the second visit they decided to send me to void clinic so they decided I was to use a catheter to empty my bladder after the first day I had a urine infection got antibiotics for the infection as soon as the antibiotics were finished another infection right away so had to take sample into the docs got phone call to say it was another infection stopped using the catheter until I got another appointment with the hospital so I was given slow release antibiotic to take every day in excruciating pain using the catheter so then I was sent to urogyn clinic clinic they put me on to small dose of hormone cream attended there now they have sent me to a gynecologist and that’s where I am today sorry for the long story loads went on in between all this so I haven’t been given a straight answer to what is wrong with me and what’s causing this excruciating pain Janebee

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Hi JB, never apologise for expressing yourself - its called communication darling, write as much and say whatever you want.....

how did it all go today when you went to see the Lab ratters - i mean doctors - i mean overpaid narcissists - sorry i mean specialists, oh i just can't get it right - think those Drs are rubbing off on me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

forgive my aggressive beginning, im a sensitive soul to fellow sufferers - another day, another pain plot thickens in the medical world, saw an article today promoting a new docu-series about GPs and their surgeries, they were all standing there for a group photo - smiling (fair enough).......

i thought to myself, will they expose what truly goes on in those little rooms, will they show Gps saying to their patients "I dont know what it is, you just have to live with it"

That was the last thing my Gp said to me.....

Bless them really, they sit in those rooms day after day, having to deal with all our sad stories-that we make up in our heads for attention.....LOL.......

Oh sorry-i just realised - thats their job - thats what they chose to do when they studied for years and years and years!!!!!!!!!! Deal with it-you get paid for it!!!!

Yes JB its a bitter day for me darling........Pain Drain Day!!!!!!!

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:o oh wow - thats overwhelming, and that sounds like abuse of a body, i feel sad everyday reading about everyone, theres too much abuse going on, we are being abused, it just doesn't sound like help anymore - it just sounds like horror movies......

Im praying right now (universe please help us)........

yes, we are for sure bloody lab rats........

i want to make a poster just like the old days when people would call for the removal of animal testing........

i can have a poster with a dog biting through the Gp door and freeing the patients inside, or have the pigeons working together flying into the hospital wards and picking up the kidnapped humans and flying them to safety.........

i feel we are all animals being tested on...... The Herd-coming soon!!!!!!!!!!

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Try Anusol suppositories with Lidocaine IF you have rectal pain.

Take Pascoflair supplements...the Passion flower in these tablets calms stressed nerves and emotions.

Eat curried food with added turmeric. The heat helps nerve pain.

I have read that some women use popsicles made of water and insert the frozen ice into their vagina.

The best thing for vaginal nerve pain is Compounded Vaginal Suppositories made of 15%Valium and 1% Lidocaine. Ask your doctor for a prescription.

Pain patches may help to. The best are made of capsicum.

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Hi Konargirl. I doubt if my doctor would give me that as I am on Valium already because of the anxiety this pain has caused me I am also on depression tablets I can’t believe how much I have changed since I have had all this pain and I live on my own and it can get pretty scary when this pain over 10 on the pain scale well I go back to a different doctor on the 28th janebee xof this month so I will see what she has got to say that’s what I mean getting passed from pillar to post I don’t know how many doctors I have seen and can’t get a proper diagnosis

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Look for herbs that can help with pain, make an old style poultice, but n the style of a pessary that kongagirl said - but do it with herbs,

have you thought about reflexology, every part of the body lays in the foot.....i know this isn't a pharmacy version, but this can help with sleeping or sitting for long periods, it can de-stress etc etc

we need to detox from these chemicals - we take more and more to try to help and in the end our bodies become resistant to them, then we seek stronger ones, this will start destroying our livers and kidneys and so on.

we have been turned into bloody drug addicts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once i had more tablets inside me than i had food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The tablets were eating my stomach away.....

I get it - we are in so much pain that we need these drugs, but what happens when the drugs stop working or theres no more drugs left to try, or we are so ill from the amount of drugs - that we can't take them anymore.....

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Oh no JB.....bless you beautiful........

have you had any screening for cystitis or thrush.

when was the last time you had your lovely self checked for any kind of infection, your never too old to go to the G.U.M and have a little check up to make sure its nothing simple like thrush etc etc......

The G.U.M is not just for sexual transmitted infection....

i feel for you, and this is the point i was making, there is so many females not being treated properly or even given real care or investigation, why are they unable to diagnose us properly, its what they were trained to do...... sending you to a pain management clinic doesn't actually diagnose the problem - simply passes it on right... if the pain management team dont know what the problem is causing the pain, then how can they treat the pain properly!!!!!!!!!

Im not expecting the DRS to be GODS....but i expect those working in their chosen field to have some kind of understanding on what their patients are struggling with...

I feel i get better answers from GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOGLE is the new GP!!!!!!!!!

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The doctors are dismissing us because we are female. They think our pain is all emotional. It’s disgustng. Don’t give up.

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Hi Konagirl60 I was told by one doctor it was all in my mind and I couldn’t believe what I was hearing how is this pain all in your mind I was sitting their in a lot of pain and to hear that was disgusting I just couldn’t wait to get out the place as I was in tears. Janebee x

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I believe you. You cried but I got mad. Who do these doctors they they are? No professional of their caliber has a right to deny a woman proper health care when they are suffering intractable 24/7 pain? It’s utterly disgusting! Why would we want to suffer? I don’t trust doctors at all anymore except the US surgeon who saved my life and the Canadian gynaecologist who removed a metal titanium Filshie clip from my rectum and another from my ileum bowel. Most doctors don’t care about women anymore.

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Hi MAM I have had all these checks nothing showing I have been on pregablin for 4yrs and nothing has been changed my GP put me onto them after trying other meds and she couldn’t give me a answer to what was wrong with me and now i just feel as if I am getting passed from pillar to post.There is definitely something wrong because this pain is excruciating when it’s at its worst I spend days in and out of bed because that’s the only way I get some relief when I sit the pain is worst I have spent hundreds of pounds on cushions I use lidocaine gel I also use ice packs but I only get slight relief but it doesn’t last long there must be something out there for this deliberating pain I stay in Scotland and don’t know if any other countries may specialize in this because I read that some people on hear that are offered injections for nerve pain and I really think that’s what I have got according to google I know you should not google any health problems but you get so desperate to see if you can see if you can find something.I retired at the age of 60 due to illness I had 4 mini strokes then I had a brain aneurysm and now all this not the way I planned my retirement I can’t even go on holiday you can’t make any plans as you don’t how bad you will be on that day your whole life is on standstill I think I have got enough of my chest for today. Janebee

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I totally understand and relate to what you have stated. My house became a prison. I was bedridden for seven years. I have never felt so isolated in my life. I honestly feel the neglect is criminal behavioir.

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I know I feel like a prisoner in my own house the doctors can’t even look at you when they are talking to you they are either writing on a piece of paper or on their laptop so you have got to keep saying pardon. I am in and out my bed all day long they don’t let animals suffer the excruciating pain that we suffer you would think somebody would come up with some sort of medication or injection or maybe they have and it’s to expensive for us so that’s why we have got to suffer all this pain anxiety and depression that comes with it Janebee x

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Oh Lord, what on earth..... you strong woman you.....

pregablin - oh no, i watched a youtube documentary a few years ago about that being addictive it was set in ireland-they were selling and buying it like sweets.....

my neurologist put me on that for epilepsy, it was a month like magic roundabout meets Eastenders, i could not cope with it, then another neurologist took me off it saying its the wrong thing for me........

do you not think heat packs are better than cold packs JB???

Have you thought about doing acupuncture?????

or cupping?????

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Capsicum Pain patches help me...cold doesn’t.

Anyone tried this or heard of it!!!!!!!!!!!

Colloidal silver!!!!!!!!

Also, i slightly remember my gran using something years ago to do with COAL and RUSTY NAILS, SOIL from potatoes fresh out the ground.

so i started to look for old age remedies for treating us naturally - the health system is going to collapse soon as we know it - its already on its way, there is a bigger agenda going on, but it would take too long to explain it all, and putting fear into this post anymore than ive done-so already would leave me in the conspiracy realms......

this hasn't stop me before-but for now --- lets look at other ways to treat our pain........ back to nature and back to basics......but ive been toiling with this silver for years, i dont want to go blue like the smurfs - but apparently if you take vitamin A and something else then you wont go blue...... LOL Blue is the new Green.........i mean Blue is the new Black...

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why did he decide to wear a blue shirt with blue skin, its just a NO NO.....

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I like their approach. I hope they think about migated Filshie clips.

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write to them at the uni KG and tell them about it.....

I just want to say thanks to everyone who has made comments on this post, im in shock coming on here to see so many, hundreds and hundreds of people feeling let down, its truly heartbreaking and i feel broken by it all, of course we all have our positivity and light, and thats why we are still alive right, we are survivors and strong humans in this testing pool of doom.....

i know there is good GPS, good DOCTORS, good SPECIALISTS etc etc etc and i know theres many people who have been healed and cured and looked after, thats only obvious yeah!!!!!!!!

this is for all of those who have slipped through the net, or let go or given up, or have been forgotten or those who simply have been failed - I love you all, we must keep going, we must keep fighting, stop accepting the torture and say its not good enough and that you want answers, start recording sessions-tell them your recording - tell them your not going to accept the prostitution of your bodies to pharmaceutical drug lords, and stop those in the business who traffic us for big bonus wage top ups, to make a stand on being pimped out to evil gangs who torture life.

If your not feeling that brave - then its ok, just DON'T GIVE UP OK xxxxxxxxx

Thank you to headway also for having this as an outlet, whats mostly been for me to complain, moan and groan, with the freedom of speech to flow, and i thank you for that.........

what we need is care, treatment and love xxx

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They don’t care. Women are being neglected so they’ll die. There are way too many people on the planet.

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Girl-there is no-way too many people on this planet....... theres a tiny amount of humans living on this earth-that would fit into say africa or russia or america ..... they just want us to think we are over populated, or theres not enough food to feed the planet or that theres not enough land.... its all nonsense.

they do this so they can do what they want to do.......stock control, divide, conquer, decide our futures, conquer our minds, divide our needs and control all that with a heavy agenda beyond our thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But they do say they want to depopulate humanity, im sure most of the will be women-we are the womb!!!!!!

eugenics - WW1, WW2, poland (A) camps, africa starving children, all experiments to depopulate. we are in WW3 we just dont realise it-its a silent one!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi, to all those who posted on here, i wanted to give an update on "where are all the female gynaes""""""""""""""well i still haven't found one.

but i recently was put under the care of a great doctor from india, and he traced and removed endometriosis, ive been in pain for over 10 years, never being diagnosed and just left to live it, most of the time being told i had nothing wrong with me.

well, after 5 years of moving around doctors and cancelled appointments i got the man who would hopefully stop my pain and help me live life a bit......and i was very happy with his care, im still recovering-so i wont know until 6 months or so wether he truly was sent from the beautiful world of real doctors doing good work......so you see, im not totally against male gynaes, he was the exception from 6 others who failed me. so i praise him for his good work(for now).....Thanks everyone-hope your all good and id like to hear about you all, has anyone got any further on in their journey of bad health. xxx

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