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Hello every one , hope you are keeping well. I have tummy upsets a lot , and I'm being scanned to see if bile acids are working ok in my large intestine. I had to swallow a slow release capsule , scan, then next Friday another scan. Any one else had this done ?Thank you for reading

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Sorry to hear you are having problems with your tummy. I had a very similar process done and was really surprised that I do not have the proper balance to digest foods well. So, I was told to use a really good probiotic and digestive enzymes. My first reaction was, WOW! I just spent a large sum of $$$ on a test that tells me to do what most magazines do! Neither products will hurt you, only help. I have found that it does not pay to buy cheap ones, but rather to invest in a better product. Lots out there, so do your research to find what you can that fits your budget. Hope the people doing the tests have some recommendations for you.

Best of luck

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

Hi mrspeffer, would you mind sharing the enzyme and probiotic you use? Does yours have bile salt/bile acid in it?

Thanks,

Jane

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mrspeffer in reply toJaneIng

Oh course...I use MRM DIGEST-ALL enzymes. I can only take one and I do that with a complicated meal. The probiotic i use is UNITED PROBIOTICS. That is strictly an internet deal. It was developed by a top G.I. doc who is associated with Mayo clinic. I find that the use of these two products makes a huge difference in my life....Micheline

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mrspeffer in reply tomrspeffer

Sorry...about the bile acid, not sure, but do not think that is part of it

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

Thanks, Micheline. I will look them up and try it out.

I am currently taking VSL #3 which is recommended by my GI doctor. GB assist which is, enzyme, betaine HCI and ox bile combo. I am still constipated if I don't take Magnesium Citrate. I think I am going to switch the supplement and see if it makes a difference.

--Jane

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mrspeffer in reply toJaneIng

The products i mentioned do help with bowel regularity. Do you eat sugar and carbs? Could be a candida overload. My husband, who does not have PBC has tummy issues and a candida overload right now. He is using HealthForce intestinal cleanser to assist with the constipation, and just stranded taking Oil of Oregano capsules for the candida. Both are resulting in a favorable fashion. I've used the Healthforce product in the past, and it really works well. I have to really watch my candida loving foods or I get into real trouble. Feel better soon

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246810 in reply tomrspeffer

Hello I'm the opposite , some days I can go about 18 times

It's exhausting . I've had colonoscopy . A few polops removed . But still can be troublesome .

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

I am gluten free and somewhat dairy free. (I ate about one ounce of cheese per week). I may take a couple of bites of dessert on special occasion. I do eat 3 servings of fruits daily. I had candida overload 3 years ago but my symptoms were diarrhea and gastritis at the time. Very strange. The doc said I had IBS. He put me on nystatin for 60 days. I did not repeat the candida test because it costs $450. Too much for my curiosity.

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JaneIng

What test is it called? My doctor never order it for me. Does insurance cover this test?

Thanks,

Jane

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mrspeffer in reply toJaneIng

The Heidelberg gastric test. No insurance. Went to a Naturopathic doctor. Cost me $400. Should have just followed research as the recommendations are the same. I used to have the same problem with many movements daily. Digestive enzymes and probiotic helped restore me to 3 in the morning and sometimes after a meal. Are you eating animal products? I had to go vegan to survive. Animal products give me alternating constipation and diarrhea

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

I thought Heidelberg test has to be done by GI doctor. Don’t they hook something to your stomach using endoscopy procedure? Then that capsule on the hook transmit the Ph level to a external device. I got scared of the ‘Hook’ so never went for it.

I like the idea of knowing the Ph level to know if I have too much stomach acid or too little. But the procedure sounds gruesome.

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mrspeffer in reply toJaneIng

This was done with radio frequency. I took the capsule then held a transmitter to my stomach during the test. I think it was about a 30 minute procedure. Are you in the US?

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

Yes. I am in Georgia. The procedure I was talking about takes a couple of days. The capsule supposed to be released on its own and expelled they bowel.

Did your test show deficiency in stomach acid? The theory is that we produce less stomach acid as we age so we need add betaine HcI supplement. However for people who suffers gastritis or ulcers, doctor’s often prescribe acid blocker. Unless we know we produce too much stomach acid, we should not take acid blocker.

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246810 in reply tomrspeffer

I had this done I'm in the uk

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JaneIng in reply to246810

There are a couple of other Jane on this website :-) Would you like to be addressed as 246810?

Do you know the name of test you did? I thought Heidelberg is used to measure stomach acid, not bile acid. what result did you get?

Thanks!!

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mrspeffer

Yes..it showed I do not produce enough stomach acid, as well as, when what times it is produced. Just so you know, I have little trust in Medical Doctors or their "fix" to problems

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JaneIng in reply tomrspeffer

Agreed. :-)

It is hard to find a good functional doctors though.

Have a blessed day,

Jane

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246810 in reply toJaneIng

My doctors have been good to me , I can't complain.

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246810 in reply tomrspeffer

Hello I'm a little confused with the conversation here, is there 3 of us in this conversation

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mrspeffer in reply to246810

Might be. I'm 'responded to 2 different folks

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246810 in reply tomrspeffer

That's ok I thought so

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246810 in reply tomrspeffer

It's just my name is jane too and I knew I hadn't written some of this conversation !! Thought I was losing it . Ha ha !!

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