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I am reading elsewhere on health unlocked that we need B2 to absorb B6 which prevents excess B6. . . . . This is conection with PD although seems appropriate for most

I currently use B6 usually about 3mg along with 600/700ish B12 and I use B6 as B12 more or less cured a load of my symptoms but there was a few lurking or not quite there on B12 alone.. . . B6 did eliminate soem symptoms completely

I have had chest problems and since living here outside of NHS land I had had a few investigations done on that front with little to be found yet I kept taking serious chest infections. . . . . They came up with post nasal drip which is on the rare side of chest infection causes. . . . Now I did take pnumonia right after the pulmanary visit but that was the last as such. . . . . . I have used all the scripted meds they gave me but the most effective was the nasal sinus spray. . . . . I have had a sore throat and glands in my neck for years again without explanation . . . . . Another mystery brushed off as A NOTHING. . . . . It is so bad I often cant turn my head without pain. . . . . I told pulmanary here about this and they said it could be all connected . . . . .You have chest infections endless and your glands will be trying to fight things off as they. . . . . . . I thought thank god someone listens. . . . . . I had been p;laying with B2 prior as I'd read symptoms similar to my own and wondered is this was another vitamin I was lacking in. . . . . Of course B2 qnd B6 defiency is about as easy to get past a doctor as B12 was 20 years ago unless ye are near to passing out with defiency . . . . . Anyhow. . . . . All here know I use B6 and that I consider it as success after several years and I will report how I get along with the B2 now which after reading about B2 and B6 really being needed together I will up a little again now . . . . . Its expensive stuff though. . . .

Where am I going again with another rant . . . . Has any of you suffer from bad chest problems. . . Nasal drip and of phelm stuck in the throat every morning plus maybe sore necks. . . . . .

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Kennyatw

B6 is not good for neuropathy and it says that on Google search but it also says it can help so I asked my doctor and he said I shouldn't take it because it doesn't work for the neuropathy. And I have no idea what it's for

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OldmanD in reply to Kennyatw

He sounds like the usual GP and with again minimal research into such doesnt surprise me. . . I am sure you read here that many if not most GP's misuse and misunderstand results in connection with B12D

But anyhow , , ,Here's three quotes . . . . . You find more here on healthunlocked inc in connection with Parkinsons. . . . . .

NIH.Gov. . . . . . Riboflavin deficiency can cause skin disorders, sores at the corners of your mouth, swollen and cracked lips, hair loss, sore throat, liver disorders, and problems with your reproductive and nervous systems.. . . . . In addition, vitamin B6 deficiency can result from malabsorption syndromes, such as celiac disease, Crohn's disease, and ulcerative colitis. Certain genetic diseases, such as homocystinuria, can also cause vitamin B6 deficiency [2]. Some medications, such as antiepileptic drugs, can lead to deficiency over time.

theb12society.com. . . . . . It is also the case that although vitamin B12 is required for every cell in the body, it does not work alone, so it is essential that you have sufficient levels of cofactors to ensure optimal uptake of your B12 therapy. The main cofactors are: Folate (vitamin B9), Ferritin (iron stores) and vitamin B6.

webmd, , , , . . Numb Hands or Feet. . . . . Do your fingers tingle? Do your feet feel numb? The culprit may be a nerve disorder called peripheral neuropathy. Lack of B6 may help trigger it. It and other B vitamins like B12 are essential to keep your nerves healthy.. . . . . B6 helps regulate your mood and memory. If you notice feeling confused or sad, especially if you’re a senior, a shortage of this vitamin could be the reason. It may make you more likely to get depressed after a stroke, fractured hip, or other major illness. B6 sometimes works in tandem with other B vitamins. If you run low, it may slow your mental abilities.

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Kennyatw in reply to OldmanD

It was my neurologist that I asked about it and he's the one that told me that it was the chemicals in the B6 that were bothering my feet a lot more and told me to stop taking it. After that my feet didn't bother me as much as before when I was taking it. As far as the B2 goes I'll have to Google that and see what it's for but I have been taking my vitamin D3 because my blood levels were low on that. They were down to 41 and now they are up to 83 and they should be much higher when I get my bloodwork done in a couple of weeks. Everything else is good for now and I'm not worried about anything else for now

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B12life in reply to Kennyatw

What version of b6 are you taking. The wrong version can indeed cause problems after 6 months to a year; however the right version, P5P, should not per medical journals. I have been taking it for over a year now.

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MLJ2024 in reply to OldmanD

I wish you all the best with the B2/B6 supplementation. Now we know that GPs are only given 12 hours maximum to study nutrition as part of their training, and people like me and maybe yourself, out of necessity, probably spend most of our lives studying nutrition😊 I would say most of us are more qualified to know what our bodies need to function. Gone are the days when I trust a GP’s advice on nutrition, I’m afraid, much less a Google search 😊

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Technoid in reply to Kennyatw

How much supplemental B6 were you taking Kennyatw ?

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Technoid

B2 (Riboflavin) does not influence the absorption of B6 but B2 (Riboflavin) (as FAD or FMN) is required for the metabolism of vitamin B6.

see : lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vit...

Both B6 deficiency and B6 excess can cause neuropathy. B6 neuropathy from excess intake seems more strongly associated with high supplemental doses of Pyridoxine, the inactive form of B6, rather than P5P/PLP - the active form of B6. There are wide differences in the B6 upper limit between countries - 100mg in the US and 12.5mg in the EU, indicating considerable disagreement about what constitutes a safe level of high intake of supplemental B6 and no specific differential advice related to the different forms. From the research I have come across, if you plan to approach high supplemental intakes I would strongly suggest preferring the active form of B6 - PLP/P5P (Pyridoxal phosphate/Pyridoxal 5'- phosphate).

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OldmanD in reply to Technoid

Again Technoid thank you for your input. . . . .. I can read plenty but I need it laymans terms. . . . . I will come back to you later. . . . ..

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B12life in reply to OldmanD

Tech kid is spot on!

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SpringerMom

Well OldmanD, very interesting. I was diagnosed with asthma when I was child, over 50 years ago and have been ‘treated’ with inhalers ever since. My symptoms are breathless on excercise and exertion . I mentioned this at my annual review and the nurse commented that ‘oh, that isn’t asthma then’ but no further investigation. I get URTI at least once a year, often twice and chest X-rays don’t show anything. A number of years ago I also started with post nasal drip which was attributed to seasonal rhinitis and prescribed a nasal spray which did seem to help. A few weeks after supplementing with B12, B complex, vit D with K3 and magnesium, I have noticed that the chestiness and drippyness have subsided. I am now wondering if I have had B12 deficiency for a long time but it has now only got to the stage where it is causing more problems? I also suffer from swollen glands, seemingly also including thyroid, when I am under the weather or particularly fatigued but put this down to thyroid becoming more under active. Hopefully the MMA and other blood tests I’m having tomorrow or Wednesday will help with answers.

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OldmanD in reply to SpringerMom

This all sounds too familiar. . . . . In NI NHS they told me I had asthma and copd yet here they said they could not put that diagnoses on me. . . . . So you and I take unexplained infections . . . . I had pneumonia in Dec past and I was afraid. . . . . You say the same you got nasal spray for your sinuses and I got the same and yes it has helped . . . A lot not only with the chest but getting up every morning I dont have that lump of crude n my throat that can barely be moved . . . . . Keep an eye on this as I havnt seen any more answers as I was away and back in the doror there, . . . . .

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