Production of Vitamin B12 via Fermentation -Process Modeling and Cost Analysis

[Technoid]

Some very interesting details on the production of B12 via fermentation.

researchgate.net/profile/De...

These are the bacteria that make most of the industrially produced B12:

microbewiki.kenyon.edu/inde...

An interesting detail here:

" In 1969, D.H. Davis changed the name of the bacteria to its present name because of the discovery that the bacteria contained many features known to be in mitochondria. It is possible that Paracoccus denitrificans is an ancestor to the eukaryotic mitochondria. "

If only our damn mitochondria were (still?) able to make their own B12, that would certainly save us a lot of bother with this damned contrived absorption system 🤣

[Rexz]

This is great Technoid!Thank you.

I think whomever designed my b12 absorption system was certainly a bit tipsy! 😜

[Technoid in reply to Rexz]

😆

[EllaNore in reply to Rexz]

It was made 5 minutes before closing time! LOLOL

[Rexz in reply to EllaNore]

Yes, they were definitely in a hurry. They actually put the B12 producing bacteria in the large intestine, after where the human body can absorb it! 💫🤔

[EllaNore in reply to Rexz]

HAHA 😞 They're fired!!!

[Wwwdot]

Hi Technoid

Very interesting. I wonder if one day it might be possible to do a mitochondria transplant?? Now wouldn’t that be life changing!!!

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[Heloise in reply to Wwwdot]

What builds mitochondria? Exercise! Also red ginseng and possibly licorice root activates. Support your mitochondria by not blocking them with seed/vegetable oils and glyophsate.

[Wwwdot in reply to Heloise]

Hi Heloise

Interesting - do have any reading references?

Also I wonder if the mitochondria our bodies with P.A. make will be fully functioning?

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[Heloise in reply to Wwwdot]

Hi Wwwdot, I used to post about the summits designed to educate current functional medicine findings. Doctors are interviewed and put online for free. I've watched hundreds of them so I can't give you a particular reference. I did download the Mitochondrial Summit videos since ATP is so vital. I don't know how it relates to P.A. You have thousands of mitochondria inside every cell. The brain, retina and heart are the most populated.

Make sure you get B vitamins.

"What is the biochemical function of vitamin B complex?

In addition to serving as cofactors in biochemical reactions, the vitamin B complex is vital for normal body growth and development, healthy skin, the proper function of nerves and the heart, and red blood cell formation.B vitamins induce a lot of chemical reactions the proper function of nerves and the heart, and red blood cell formation."

[Technoid in reply to Heloise]

Fear not the seed oils 😁 but yes, exercise is highly recommended.

[Heloise in reply to Technoid]

Well, not if you eat the seeds

[Technoid in reply to Heloise]

Here's a short summary

m.youtube.com/watch?v=1PMPN...(Not working as expected?)

[Heloise in reply to Technoid]

I think a lot of that is correct. This isn't really about LDL though. Dr. Tom J. Lewis who was a researcher at Harvard is an expert in this and blasts the myths regarding cholesterol. I've dodged statins for years.

healthrevivalpartners.com/?...

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Heloise]

I myself have avoided stations. The reason is I go over all the tests not just one. My only question now are medical professionals really any worse at B12 then much of what they do or is it just that we can find out?

[Heloise in reply to WIZARD6787]

Two good questions! My opinion is you can't trust much from conventional medicine and I believe good research is often shut down or paid off. I'm sorry I don't know enough about B12 or P.A. to add anything.

[Technoid in reply to Heloise]

Heloise you're moving the goalposts from seed oils on to cholesterol but howsoever - I'm not sure what "myths" you are referring to around cholesterol but this coverage may help:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=exIP2...(Not working as expected?)

[Heloise in reply to Technoid]

Sorry, it seem so much about LDL and heart disease I thought you had changed the topic. He didn't mention mitochondria once that I heard. Keep up the good work. Did you ever look at articles by this man? Dr. Ray Peat?

[Technoid in reply to Heloise]

Not familiar I'm afraid

[Technoid in reply to Technoid]

oh, I found him, but on RationalWiki unfortunately

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Peat

He sounds like a crackpot to be honest.

[Heloise in reply to Technoid]

But aren't the old ways often ridiculed. If I were a technoid I would attempt a discussion but since I'm not we will just take our sides. I also respect Eric Berg, haha.

[Technoid in reply to Heloise]

No worries. I have a couple of resources in my profile section if you do want to dip a toe into the other side at some point.

[Technoid in reply to Technoid]

Here's a deep dive on the structure and origin of Mitochondria

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wC68z...(Not working as expected?)

[Myoldcat]

Maybe as a species we need a bit of genetic modification... 🧫🧬

[WIZARD6787 in reply to Myoldcat]

Or perhaps the way the body is using B12 is a genetic modification. Based on a study I just made up right now people that experience B12 deficiency are generally more emotionally mature compared to the general population.

I could probably get a grant to do a review of the information now available on the internet and call it a study. : )

[Myoldcat in reply to WIZARD6787]

🤣👍👍👍

[Heloise in reply to WIZARD6787]

BIG LOL

[OldmanD]

Good Technoid. . . . . I really enjoy all this kind of stuff