"Research at the Quadram Institute has developed sustainable manufacturing processes for B12, helping address a growing global need for the synthesised vitamin."
The article addresses the issues with high production costs and environmental damage from B12 production, and also mentions CluB-12.
Thank you Technoid
I found of particular interest the part on Commercial B12 Production. I had no idea that it was that intensive.
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Electric cars are NOT good for the environment in anyway. And for so many reasons. I do not get this craze at all. What it takes environmentally, humanitarianly, is not worth it. My mom had the first prius that came out. The cost of a new battery for that car was in the $6K range and then the cost to dispose of the old battery. What was the cost to make that battery on human labor, and the environment? Now they have to put in charging stations everywhere. I see nothing but dead cars littering the roadsides. I don't see electric cars being positive at all. The pollution and waste and impact on the environment and humans it takes to create the battery outweighs the pollution from emissions one car makes.
If the figures in this chart are correct, less than 5% of Cobalt production goes as an input to B12 production, the vast majority going instead to batteries and other industrial uses.
Very interesting, and encouraging. Thanks for posting.
You cannot imagine how reading the article has raised my spirits .
To hear that these very intelligent scientists are taking B12 deficiency so seriously and making such strides to improve production is the most marvellous news .
We hear so often about the ignorance of doctors about B12!deficiency and how that ignorance is causing suffering .
I had no idea that any B12 was manufactured in U.K. I only remember reading on this forum several years ago that the main producers were 2 enormous facilities in China and a small one in France .
Thank you so much for forwarding this article . Such excellent news .
Thank you for posting. A brilliant article. It rather illustrates the yawning gap between science and medicine.
Thank you!
thank you Technoid. x
brilliant article. Thanks for posting. I hope we can get manufacturing our own B12 . We need a rich entrepreneur. It’s essential that our GPs also understand the complex needs the body has for B12 and that those with autoimmune gastritis pernicious anemia cannot absorb orally. Plus there is a need to recognise that the references ranges are not correct and higher levels are required.
Very interesting article. All we now need is for the uncooperative doctors to stop obstructing patients and allow them to access b12 as required.
Thank you Technoid,
I knew Professor Warren had something in the pipeline. I find this interesting,
One of the reasons B12 deficiency may be a ‘hidden hunger’ is that there is a lack of national and international clarity and cohesion regarding normal cobalamin serum levels.
Sustainability is always an issue. As a race, in my own opinion, we have over-farmed, taken whatever we want from the land and to excess. Silicon (or silly cone) is also in high demand due to it being used in technology.
I smiled at the beginning of the YouTube clip with Democratic Republican of Congo (DCR) workers singing to Apple, Tesla, Motorola, BMW etc.
On Friday, I taught a man from Chad, how to say, My bike is orange. I, however, failed many times to pronounce the name of his tribal language. His 6 year old son remains in his own country.
The impact of the Chinese mining silicon impacts the DCR’s water and farming, their environment and the Citizens’ HEALTH. Many are oblivious to the stark reality with the attitude of I’m alright, Jack.
As a further clarification, each phone has about 8 grams of cobalt and Electric Cars EV batteries have about 14 kilograms of cobalt. B12 doses are in micrograms. There are 1 million micrograms in a gram. B12 is only 4% cobalt on average, so even 1000mcg B12 is only 40mcg cobalt, an absolutely miniscule amount in comparison to that used in any batteries. So don't stress about ethical concerns regards cobalt usage in B12 since the amount in any battery is orders of magnitude higher 😅😁
Thank you Technoid,
I have worked in developing countries, been welcomed, treated with so much respect and dignity.
My plan was to work for Medicins Sans Frontier. It might be worth reading my biography, so you understand a little bit more about me.
None of us know who we are on these websites, we just have ‘code-names.’
Very interesting Narwhal10. None of know who each other is, but we are all here helping one another. That is so cool.
Thanks for sharing Technoid!!! This is very informative. I like others were unaware of the complicated process of producing serum b12. I believe this information is important for us to know so that we can be aware of any issues and advocate for ourselves and our treatment.
Thank you so much for this enlightening post!
very enlightening! Many thanks as always for all your informative posts x
This was a very interesting article Technoid. Thanks again for another interesting read. I was surprised at the production costs of B12. It is so cheap to purchase, that I had no idea all that went into making it. The cost of disposing of the cyanide and the cobalt, financially and environmentally, is expensive. It is a little scary to think of what it takes to make B12, and if there will be serious shortages in the future as demands skyrocket.
Now with dietary changes in so many, as they decide to eat less meat, it is forcing science to make changes. This is actually a good thing. Maybe vegan and vegetarianism, is the key to finding how to help PA sufferers better, by developing cheaper production, safer ingredients, and maybe even self administering due to demand and doctors not wanting to be burdened with it. There weren't enough PA/B12d sufferers to pour money into research but with dietary B12d sufferers and hollywood spas demanding it so much, maybe now there is!
The other side to that coin is, it is scary when I go online to order and it says sold out or out of stock. And high demand always raises prices. So that is a double edge sword. People who don't need it are demanding it so much that it could raise the cost and make it harder to get.
According to this article, all that is left to figure out with this new method, is how to make the protein let go of the b12 once it gets to the lower ilium and this new way of production will be ready. Sounds hard to me. LOL I have my fingers crossed! 🤞🤞🤞
Guardian Article about B12 from algae
Dr. Mark Porter's B12 Times article
Eyes/Very interesting article
Mayo Clinic studies B12 def, are very interesting!!
