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Hi,

I got results and shows that my 7 year old son has a higher level B12 - 1125 ( he don't take any supplement) .

Next week I'll be going to gp, but wondering is this very bad and what else should be checked in order to ensure that everything is ok?

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fbirder profile image
fbirder

It's quite possible that this is normal for your son. I would wait and see what the GP says.

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Dahlia88 in reply tofbirder

Propably the best thing is to wait and see..

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pvanderaa

Does he drink energy drinks?

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Dahlia88 in reply topvanderaa

Oh my goodness never drinks and even he doesn't drink a fizzy drinks.only tea and water.

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pvanderaa in reply toDahlia88

Sorry, didn’t see that he was seven years old. What prompted the B12 test in the first place?

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Clarrisa

Was your son on vitamin C? I found personally vitamin C will shoot the B-12 level up, but stopping vitamin C brought my B-12 level back down immediately.

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Dahlia88 in reply toClarrisa

Yes, he takes vit c , we bought from the pharmacy a bottle of eldberry syrum that contains vit c and zink ( age- 3-12) ,we bought by the gp recommendation to boost his immune system as he suffers from the comman infections and he has twice flu in December. He takes roughly for more than one month.

Now it's a question ..

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Clarrisa in reply toDahlia88

My lab prep instructions were “Do not take multi-vitamins or dietary supplements containing Biotin or Vitamin B-7 which are commonly found in hair, skin and nail supplements, and multivitamins” 12 hours before blood tests. However I went off all of them several days in advance following thyroid U.K. forum’s advice instead.

On my way to the clinic the afternoon beforehand a person was coughing up a storm behind me in a van. I forgot & took up to a gram (most likely considerably less) of ascorbic acid. My Vitamin B-12 result was 1025 (180 - 914 ng/L) drawn the next morning. This lab was repeated a day or two later & was then 759 (180 - 914 ng/L)😊.

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Martin_12

According to the Dutch group stichtingb12tekort, from the age of 6 months serum B12 "increases to a maximum between the age of 3 and 7, after which it slowly decreases to the adult value".

stichtingb12tekort.nl/weten...

One survey of healthy children reported the 75th percentile of B12 in children 6 to 10 years as 683 pmol/L (925 ng/L). In other words 25% of the kids had values higher than 925 ng/L. The "normal" range usually extends to the 97.5 percentile, which will be substantially higher that 925 ng/L, and very likely higher than 1125 ng/L.

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Dahlia88 in reply toMartin_12

Thank you for your information. It's very helpful.

I will discuss this next and surely I will post what doctor's argues.

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natcap1

Hi, both my kids have had a b12 test recently for various reasons. Both of them had results out of the top range (they were 6 and 8 at the time). My son sees a Gastro consultant and this guy reckons the high result is due to an overgrowth of ‘bad’ bacteria in the gut, due to antibiotics given in early life. So he prescribed probiotics. After a year on them y son still has an out of range B12 result.

Both seem healthy so I don’t worry too much about it. My concern was for the opposite result as I inherited PA from my father and have autoimmune Atrophic gastritis. I am worried my son is on the path to this as he exhibits some very similar symptoms to me. I had my daughter and during pregnancy became ill and after exhibited severe b12 deficiency for 5 years before diagnosis. So I was worried her health might have suffered but she appears healthy and with a high out of range B12 result I assume there is no cause for concern. Needless to say I will be monitoring all this!

So I wouldn’t worry but always good to check. Let me know if you have any interesting feedback.

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Dahlia88 in reply tonatcap1

Wow, that's very good information. You see my son have had a lot illness, starting from the age 2,5 was diagnosed with leukemia, then got partly deaf ( got grommets in both ears) and he is like a spong, takes every viruse that is around and suffering from the chest infections,so,gp prescribes an antibiotics and he have had taken them so many times.

I'm supplying him with probiotics is well,but one thing that he is very sensitive to food is well. I think that all of this is in line with his common sickness and too often taken an antibiotics.

I'm going to write down all important reviews that I received from this forum and will the research to my gp as I know that he will have no idea of what is wrong..

Thank you.

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Bellabab in reply tonatcap1

You can use probiotic capsules rather than tablets. Kefir can also help - dairy shelf at supermarket. Also people have found that Omega 3 oil helps the gut repopulate.

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Dahlia88 in reply toBellabab

Why are capsules better than tablets? We use Alflorex chewable tablets. They are quite expensive to my family,but it says that they are good and contains bifidobacterium longum culture. I know that kefir is very helpful is well,but only me and husband can drink that. Pity,but my son don't like.

Any other advice how to boost the immune system is well?

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natcap1 in reply toDahlia88

The consultant prescribed BioGaia for my son. He has the drops but they also come in tablet form. If you can get a medic to say they are necessary you don’t have to buy them, they can be prescribed. The consultant does this and said the GP could also prescribe when we run out. However, it is at the GP’s discretion, so they could refuse. They are expensive otherwise.

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Dahlia88 in reply tonatcap1

I will try my luck as they are really expensive..I think when children takes often antibiotics they should be prescribed the probiotics is well.

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Bellabab in reply toDahlia88

Because they are said to resist breakdown by the stomach acids. Hence gastro resistant capsules.

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FlipperTD

This is from a scientist who has measured a very large number of serum B12 samples. The quoted 'Normal Range' can be a help in deciding if someone is deficient, but I wouldn't draw any conclusions from the upper limit. The distribution isn't Gaussian; (it's not a bell-shaped curve). It's skewed, so most of the results are at the 'bottom end' of the range, but there are plenty above the upper limit who are still normal.

See what your GP says!

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Dahlia88 in reply toFlipperTD

A lot of interesting information..

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helvella

It appears that guideline is current being updated.

nice.org.uk/guidance/indeve...

I have not looked further but could be time to investigate if you, or PAS, can submit evidence.

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