Here's why sleeping during the day, does not make you lazy.

[Davek723]

Hi there, had a conversation about people's perceptions of me sleeping in the day time.

My night time routine.

Time for bed , 11pm every night, routine.

I climb the stair mountain , that's how it feels, but I'm only 48 so won't give my "proper" house up not ready for 1 level living.

I reach the bedroom already dreading bed time as i know what's coming, but still hopeful and positive that this may be the night I finally sleep.

So 10mins of getting ready dressed teeth etc on with mountain socks lol you all know. I sit on the mattress, my 10th different one in 10yrs. Tried them all soft , hard, foam, air , water etc etc , makes no difference. So from sitting I lay back and my legs have no option but to follow, so I'm in , let the fun begin. I alter my super duper pain free sleep pillow lol hug and kiss my wonderful partner then try to get comfortable. Feet are both freezing cold in my 60million tog socks feel more like freezer bags. I pull up my 4 tog waifer thin duvet, I can't bare anything heavier on my body. First attempt is on my side slightly on my stomach so my legs are not on top of each other, it's too painful if they are crushing each other. One hand straight out the other tucked safely under my pillow. This is to prevent muscles spasms and bruises to my face while i sleep, had way too many over the years. Hips already feel like the mattress is being pushed from below crushing my bones and the light weight duvet starts to feel like a paving slab on top of me, it's almost 1am still no sleep, been in more positions than a championship Rubik cube. Brain is so tired eyes stinging with exhaustion. Legs decide they want to run a marathon then do a bit of a swim, reckon if i took a bike to bed id be a tri athlete lol.

It's now 3 am still awake frustrated keeping my partner awake, I decide to get up. So bit more mountaineering down stairs on to the sofa , or outside if it's not to cold, relaxation voice on my phone head phones on hope against hope I fall asleep, almost 5am must have nodded of for an hour woohoo. Wake up and a new day begins.

So next time your asked why you fall asleep during the day just smile and show the person this. Im sure most if not all can relate to my story. Be mindful that exhaustion is not laziness and stick 2 fingers up to those who believe day time sleep equals lazy. They will never understand unless they've been through it.

Cheers all

Dave

[Madlegs1]

Have you tried melatonin?

I have been experimenting with it recently and have been pleasantly surprised at the outcome.

The trick seems to be to take a tiny dose. I'm talking 200 to 300 micrograms. That's 0.2 mg.

Many people have had bad experiences with Melatonin because they are prescribed far too high a dose. This is because the FDA based its recommendation on research that only looked at doses of 3 to 10 mg. Recent research ( which will take years for the FDA to acknowledge) has shown that effective doses need to be very much lower.

I had to get mine on the internet because it was impossible to get a low enough dose in my country.

I got 1mg dose liquid which comes with a dropper which can of course be infinitely graduated. I also got 1mg capsules - the powder inside can be also divided quite easily.

I take a dose halfhour before bed, and if I wake again, can take another dose.

There are no side effects or danger of addiction, rebound or tolerance.

This may be an option for you. Or maybe not.

Cheers.

[Binky68 in reply to Madlegs1]

I read this low dose report too , people need to stop with the 3mg; that’s for kids with adhd

[saj01]

Hi Dave,

Not sure if I can offer you much in the way of help or advice as I don't know anything about your general health or how active you are usually,etc.

But the freezing cold feet and not being able to get off to sleep certainly ring a bell with me. I can't sleep if my feet are cold. I'm told I have reynauds? I do notice a difference in my circulation when I elevate them i.e. sleep with pillow at the bottom of the bed.. that might not work for you because of this 'pressure you feel. Just wondering if elevating the end of the bed might help? Not easy to do though, as you sleep with your other half.

I've tried not having coffee or tea after about 3-4 in the afternoon. I do have a camomile tea after my evening meal, then nothing else to drink... otherwise I make several trips to the bathroom throughout the night!

If you can have something like a banana before bedtime... that contains potassium and helps to relax the muscles. If bananas are out.. then try to get potassium in others was could help if you're able to take it?

I'm guessing you've discussed all this with your GP... there's so many causes that can contribute to 'poor circulation in the feet and why climbing the stairs can feel ardous; from claudication, high blood pressure, diabetes, liver/kidneys disease.. you name it, they can all affect your circulation.

I hope you find some answers soon so you can get a decent nights sleep .

[Davek723 in reply to saj01]

Hi cheers for the reply, I was more posting because of a chat about people's perception .

I manage my condition through many different ways but it means sometimes I need to have a sleep in the day time, I've managed to figure out that Im never going to have the full sleep required in one go , so used to only a little sleep when "normal " lol people sleep, I sometimes have a 90min sleep pattern which works if im on a real bad flair up. Ive become resigned to my sleep issues and it doesn't affect me as it used to.

I don't really care if people perceive me as lazy for sleep in the day time, more their issue than mine, that was kind of the point I was trying to make.

I did try to cover the reason as i think most here will understand.

Many thanks tho for your suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers dave

[saj01 in reply to Davek723]

Hi Dave

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did get the reason why you posted it.

Just wondered if sometimes small adjustments can help. I see you have crps though, so no doubt you've probably tried everything, including relaxation techniques.

Just as a matter of interest, do you have any hydrotherapy facilities near you... something else that might help. ... it's certainly one way to get a few zzzz's and you've got to grab some sleep when you can.

Take care.