Nerve painkillers

[misty14]

Hi everyone

Just a quick question. Does anyone know which is the stronger drug , pregabalin or Gabapentin?.

Many thanks

MistyX

[Pinky2233]

It has been my experience Lyrica is stronger or more likely to effect the nerves better than Gabapentin

I stayed on Gabapentin since it didn’t make me as “drunk”

Gabapentin has certainly been cheaper but the newsletter Dr Whitaker Best Pills Worst Pills lists Lyrica acceptable for nerve pain but not Gabapentin

[misty14 in reply to Pinky2233]

Hi pinky

Thanks for your reply. I've not been able to tolerate Pregabalin either and am on Gabapentin!. It's not licenced for nerve pain but epilepsy but has been found to help nerve pain so can be used for it at a lower dose. X

[Yvette49 in reply to Pinky2233]

Hi, I am on Pregabalin, ( building up) am on 100mg can’t get any higher, as makes me feel “drunk” too, and not touching my sciatica pain ☹️

[weathervane]

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This might be of help , i take pregabalin, I started on a low dose and increased it very gradually, it has worked so far for me . Hope you can find one that works for you misty as you have been in so much pain xxxx

[misty14 in reply to weathervane]

Hi weathervane

Thanks for the drug info and lovely message. Very helpful to know that Pregabalin is the strongest drug!. I'm sorry that you take it too for nerve pain but glad it helps and you tolerate it ok. I tried it but side effects too great so I take Gabapentin that helps . It's not for my toe, just have to cope with that. Not long now till appt for it!.

So glad you had a lovely holiday despite the storms and flooding and you got home safely. TAKE CAREXx

[weathervane in reply to misty14]

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[Hidden]

Hi misty, both drugs are from the same family , and effects people differently , for me I tried both and got more benefit from pregabilin , like I said it all depends on the individual , hope my reply helps.

[misty14 in reply to Hidden]

Thanks for your reply longsider. Glad you get help from Pregabalin. I couldn't take it because of side effects so am on Gabapentin. X

[Hidden]

They are very similar misty , I also used to take codein but that gave me a problem with bowels as I have ulcerative colitis so I started taking kapake which is half codein and paracetamol aswell as baclofen , they just take the edge of x

[misty14 in reply to Hidden]

I'm sorry longsider you have ulcerative colitis!. I do too although it's well controlled at the mo!. How long have you had it?. Not a nice condition. I'll keep a note of your drugs, thanks for replying and take care

[Cb1963]

Yep I'm on pregabalin, and I'm using it for neuropathic pain, I also take a tablet at night called mirtrazapine to help for sleep, but for some reason like you said these drugs are used for treatment in epilepsy and seem to work, however I did put a bit of weight on with these tablets, and surprisingly I used to suffer with ulcerative colitis, I've not had an attack for years, an unpleasant and painful condition, I sometimes feel I was just put on the planet as a medical experiment lol.

[Breathless1943 in reply to Cb1963]

Same here,I feel I’m a medical experiment,I take both Pregablin,and mirtazapine ,and to be honest I’ve been on them for over 10yrs,and they are both HELL to withdraw from,and they have done nothing for my pain. So I now have an addiction for no fault of my own. I kept being told they take time to work. That’s just one experiment I’ve been used for.🥵

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

Hello again CB

Glad your tolerating Pregabalin OK and it helps. I take Gabapentin for nerve pain and it helps. Funnily enough I've put on weight suddenly too and have U. C but haven't had an attack for a long time. Wonder if there's a connection?. We do have nerves in our bowels?. Are you on teeatment for it?. X

[Cb1963]

BTW great picture of the 🦔 hedgehogs, what are they eating?

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

Glad you like the pic CB. They're eating some dog food and drinking water. The water bowl has stones in it , looks like food doesn't it?. We've taken the stones out now. X

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

No longer having treatment for uc, used to be on steroids and colifoam, the picture looked like a chopped up cucumber 🥒 lol, nice to have a bit of nature in the back garden, shame that the powers that be want to cull badgers, I honestly believe politicians haven't got a clue about the whole of nature, everything on the planet is designed for a reason, it's mankind, or should I say the worst kind is doing all the damage, I come from a farming background and NEVER in all my life would I give a cow blended up sheep remains, how many times have you seen a cow hunting a sheep, the world has gone mad, its know wonder we are getting infected with different diseases, probably all caused by our own doing, keep the good work up with the family of hedgehogs.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

Thanks CB for your great reply. Glad your U. C is so well controlled. I take steroids and used Colifoam and Budesonide has given me my breakthru!. Glad you like the hedgehogs, their habitats are going because of house building round us!. Mankind again!. We'll be our own destroyers in the end. Can't imagine sheep remains being fed to cattle and they've not proven a link with TB and badgers have they?. Can't decide between culling and vaccination can they?. If everyone did their little bit like looking after hedgehogs the world would be a much nicer , sustainable place!.

We love watching them at night. Keep well.

[Hidden in reply to misty14]

Hi misty, how long have you been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis ,mine as been going on for nearly 3 years , I take octasa and foam which as helped , but it as flared up recently and I get in touch with the ward who advise me , but it won't help that I have bowel dysfunction through my neck (cervical myelopathy) which I need another op .

[misty14 in reply to Hidden]

Ive had U.C longsider for 9 years now but luckily it's mild!. It's taken a long time to find the right treatment for it though as tried a lot. I've had my best year this year thanks to Budesonide and steroids!. Glad you can contact the hospital when flaring. I can call the IBD nurse at our hospital!. I'm sorry your back condition has affected your bowel so seriously. Makes life tough. X

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

Yep nature can clean it's own mess up even down to the humble maggot, it's us humans who are the culprits, sometimes I'm ashamed to look at what damage mankind and probably myself what we've done to this planet, just on another subject matter I said I'm free from uc, however I've been suffering with hydragenitis(excuse the spelling) and I've been told that this is closely linked to uc, so whilst I'm not displaying any of the normal symptoms this is a unpleasant skin condition,which has required numerous surgeries, I wonder if any other uc sufferers have come across this condition, it's amazing how a little snippet of information can cross each other people's paths, keep well.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

That's specially tough CB to have U.C under control but be suffering with an unpleasant skin condition!. I did know there are other conditions that can come with u.c but haven't heard of that one. Funnily enough I've been chatting to another UC sufferer in this thread so I'll ask him!. Haven't come across that many sufferers have you?. How long have you had it?. Be well too.

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

I had it when i was around 20 years of age, up until the age of 30,no I've not come across many sufferers, my uncle had chroans disease something similar and he ended up with part of the bowel removed, I'm thankful that I never needed the surgery route for that condition, but I made sure I didn't go out, as I was to embarrassed to tell the doctors what was going on with me, so I just kept going to the toilet if you get my drift, yes there many links to different ailments and how the body reacts, but thankfully those days are behind me, but as per usual another chapter opens up with me, and yet my brother seems to sail through life care free, I reckon I must be getting all his ailments as well, take care, thanks.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

That's tough CB to have your life changed so early with such an unpredictable condition!. Do you work on your family farm?. There's obviously a genetic link with it as your Uncle had Chrohn's!. Fingers crossed it stays controlled for you so you can concentrate on this other condition and be better soon. It's cruel it's happened this way and your brother hasn't had any such health problems!. I hope he's willing to help you, it's hard isn't it not to feel resentful sometimes!. I can relate as I've had a lot of different health problems from an early age and my cousins have got away with their health scot free!. It could easily have happened to one of them because of a genetic link. We're not a close family and I do feel resentful sometimes. We've got to wait because maybe it will change for us or them later on in life!. Hard to do sometimes. Best of luck and take careX

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

My grandfather was a head herdsman, my dad skipped the farming industry, I went onto a small holding, and enjoyed many happy years there until illness took hold,had many a happy a year as a child going round the various cattle markets with my granddad, I must say the animals that gave us the most enjoyment was the goats, boy could they give you the run around, and if they got in the flower beds you could kiss goodbye to your chrysanthemums lol, you didn't dare turn your back on them! Otherwise you'd end up on your face, naughty is not the word, but really you had to laugh, I dunno if it's me getting old, now all I see is the pc in society, but life for children today is all about laptops and computers, nature is free! And above all else, it teaches us a little humanity.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

You must really miss those times CB and your funny goats!.Did you leave the small holding or does your brother run it?. Sounds hilarious and let's face it we all need some laughter in our lives!. It's hard to come by it because of PC stuff!. I'm not sure if it's an age thing or whether it's just the way our lives have changed!. I do agree with you though!. I've been watching and enjoying This farming life on bbc2 that's just finished. Have you?. All the best for your treatment. X

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

My brother works in a office (boring) and he wouldn't know the difference between a heffer and a bull lol, yes I watch I try and watch the farming documentary, the other great part is having free range hens, the eggs taste awesome, its literally like going on a Easter egg hunt, as sometimes they'd lay eggs in the barn behind the straw bales, still warm! Sounds cruel taking all their hard work, but they soon forget about it, and they are back to laying in a day or two, once chased a fox out of the yard with the chicken in its mouth! The fox dropped the chicken and the chicken just clucked and carried on as if nothing happened, I was going to make her a sweet cup of tea lol, enjoy your day, and of course stay healthy, thanks.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

Never a dull moment with those animals CB. You must miss it and interesting your brother and dad didn't want to know but you were inspired by your grandfather!. Have you thought about asking on the U. C site if there's anyone else with the same skin condition?. Good luck to you and I hope you keep as well as possible. Thanks for your good wishes. X

[Cb1963 in reply to misty14]

I've not posted about the skin condition as such, as I'm not sure if there is a page on this particular subject, there is an adult acne page and my skin page as for hs it's quite a specialist subject, even getting a diagnosis can be difficult, it has been covered recently on quest red on a Tuesday night which deals in skin complaints,not a pleasant condition, and the amount of antibiotics thrown at you does not always work, surgery does relieve the pressure, but unfortunately they tend to appear again, it's a vicious cycle, but hey, at least I'm on first name terms with the surgeon lol, have a good evening, nice passing chit-chat, best wishes.

[misty14 in reply to Cb1963]

Sounds a horrible skin condition CB. All the best for your treatment and been great chatting. X

[cuttysark]

Just love that photo of the Hedgy family, such a treat to have them as visitors!! We used to have a resident one till we got our collie as a pup after that they never came back in the garden.

I am afraid I tried all that drug family, and every kind gave me dramatically racing heart and arrhythmia so am just stuck with the opioids. I am thankful though they don't bother my bowels too much so am lucky for that. xx

[HOPALONG1971]

Hi Misty14

I've tried both, I have peripheral Neuropathy I can honestly say that pre gablin, work a lot better for me. I take 300mg twice a day.

[cyberbarn]

Do you know about the NNT, the 'number to treat'? That is a calculation about a drug that says how many people have to take the drug before one person will benefit. Some drugs are really good, with an NNT of 4 say, which means that for every four people taking it one person will benefit. Surprisingly, some NNTS are very high, like some statins! (167 for people with low risk).

As each person is different, it is hard to know if someone will get on with a drug or not. So the question should be not so much which is stronger as which works for you.

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[Breathless1943]

Hi Misty,Pregablin can be taken up to 600mg,and they are used for epilepsy but there also used as a pain killer. Personally they have done nothing for me,and they are hell to withdraw from. So just do your homework before going into anything. Good luck.

[misty14 in reply to Breathless1943]

Thanks for your reply breathless. Sorry those painkillers haven't helped you. X

[Emma2017]

I started on gabapentin but due to eye problems switched to pregabalin. When switching I had to take a third less in mg in pregabalin. They say the safe limit for gabapentin is something like 1800 mg per day but for pregabalin it’s 600 per day. So strength wise they are probably the same but you have take more gabapentin to reach the same effect.

[misty14 in reply to Emma2017]

Thanks Emma for your very helpful reply. Do hope you are tolerating Pregabalin ok and it's helping. X

[MjM2015]

They are the same. Pre-gablin is the dearer painkiller for people who can't tolerate the gabapantin. I suggest only taking them for short period of time. I was on then for year and half and got addicted to them and took 4 horrendous months to get off them.... there has been alot of reports about them and the eppedemic of addicts they are creating so make sure you change painkillers every so often as they are only ment for short term pain

[Colourfull600]

Hi misty 14 I think ganapentin is better than pregabalin.

Colourfull600.

[misty14 in reply to Colourfull600]

So do I colourful X

[Spinalfusionguy123uk]

Pregabeline is the stronger of the two with max dose of 2 x 300mg per day.

[misty14 in reply to Spinalfusionguy123uk]

Thanks for helpful info. X

[Montyturbo]

Pregabalin is stronger